Running styles and energy distribution - Practice Race - Pace and Cap

RichieP · 10-15-2006, 01:11 PM

Gonna post up this race. GOOD example of
1) running styles
2) 1st call proj pace
3) energy distribution relating to units of energy used when a horse is headed.

This time I am gonna post the pp's how Jim "sees" them. It's time to really FOCUS on how HE matches.

1) there will be NO ml odds
2) there will be NO dates on races shown

I mean shoot if we are gonna practice let's remove ALL coventional stuff from the picture. lol

PLEASE feel free to work the race HERE. ALL are welcome. I will leave it up for a couple of days.

The "Hat" method:
1) Identify running styles
2) Identify 1c proj pace
3) Identify tandems
4) Find a "style" that might be favored to win TODAYS matchup based on "mix" of runnnig stlyes and 1c proj pace.

** Tip** - as you are identifying your "early" runners mentally note the 1c time for them ok? WHY? because you might have a race with say 3 early horses where running style wise you might leap right away to looking at "other than early" for the win. But if one of the earlies is DEFINITELY faster than the others at the FIRST CALL well now the picture changes.

The distance of todays race is 8.5f on the dirt

NO need to work the race fast. Jim slowed my ass down a bit a couple weeks back.

RichieP · 10-15-2006, 01:15 PM

the 1 horse

RichieP · 10-15-2006, 01:15 PM

the 2 horse

RichieP · 10-15-2006, 01:16 PM

the 3 horse

RichieP · 10-15-2006, 01:17 PM

the 4 horse

RichieP · 10-15-2006, 01:17 PM

the 5 horse

dugoutgold · 10-15-2006, 11:00 PM

Well Rich and Jim, here is my attempt at this. Hopefully I am at least partly correct on somethings. With that in mind here we go..
No meaningfull tandems that I could see here.

#1 S type running line 9 won against this call 47.1
#2 S type running line 5 a mile race but a 47.1 call
#3 S type from start to finish, WOOF!!! out!!
#4 EP or E best race was line 10 but against a much slower pace, line 5 seems the correct line against this field, out!
#5 Ep type line 4
#6 E type (ntl=need to lead) both 5 and 6 have the same 47.4 call, hmmmm
#7 prob an EP type here from line 10 at a slower pace, another woof woof, out!
#8 S type on the dirt here, running line 3 against a 47.3

the 6 will try for the lead with the 5 right on his cabbose, both should burn it up setting up this rae to run sustained. This is a far as I can take it thus far but I hope I got something right

Doug

emilio840 · 10-16-2006, 02:34 AM

Running styles:
#1 S
#2 S
#3 S
#4 P
#5 E
#6 E
#7 S
#8 S

The Tandems are: 2,3, 8 Poco Bueno
2,3, Criminal Mind
2,6 Seeking the show
3,6 Esclarecido

The 1ST call Projeceted Pace is 47.3

The way I see the race is that 6 should take the lead and wire the field. Because in his last race he ran head and head for the first two calls at a 47.1 and he still managed to get 2nd. The #5 can not do better than a 47.3

The only two horses that I am afraid of is the #2 horse because he beat the 6 in the tandem race. But, the #6 did not get the lead in that race.

The other horse I am afraid of is that Sprinter the #7 horse. He looks to be the fastest horse in here, But his last 4 races were REALLY BAD.

Turbulator · 10-16-2006, 03:29 AM

I like the 1 and the 8.

admin · 10-16-2006, 04:43 AM

Hi Jim and Rich

here is my attempt at this practice race

for Running styles
1. NF= No Form Sprinter
2. SUS
3. NF
4. SUS
5. Early
6. Early
7. NF
8. Sus

For first call Proj time= 47.4 or 1 (its hard to see the numbers on my screen shot)

For tandems horse 3 and horse 6 but its hard without the names
to be sure

I see the 5 and 6 as early but not too good
I would enter them into my program
then match up the best of the four Sus runners
and bet the best two

Bill

10-16-2006, 04:43 AM	#10
admin Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,643	where the streets have no names Hi Jim and Rich here is my attempt at this practice race for Running styles 1. NF= No Form Sprinter 2. SUS 3. NF 4. SUS 5. Early 6. Early 7. NF 8. Sus For first call Proj time= 47.4 or 1 (its hard to see the numbers on my screen shot) For tandems horse 3 and horse 6 but its hard without the names to be sure I see the 5 and 6 as early but not too good I would enter them into my program then match up the best of the four Sus runners and bet the best two Bill Last edited by admin; 10-16-2006 at 04:47 AM.

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10-15-2006, 01:11 PM	#1
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Running styles and energy distribution - Practice Race Gonna post up this race. GOOD example of 1) running styles 2) 1st call proj pace 3) energy distribution relating to units of energy used when a horse is headed. This time I am gonna post the pp's how Jim "sees" them. It's time to really FOCUS on how HE matches. 1) there will be NO ml odds 2) there will be NO dates on races shown I mean shoot if we are gonna practice let's remove ALL coventional stuff from the picture. lol PLEASE feel free to work the race HERE. ALL are welcome. I will leave it up for a couple of days. The "Hat" method: 1) Identify running styles 2) Identify 1c proj pace 3) Identify tandems 4) Find a "style" that might be favored to win TODAYS matchup based on "mix" of runnnig stlyes and 1c proj pace. Tip - as you are identifying your "early" runners mentally note the 1c time for them ok? WHY? because you might have a race with say 3 early horses where running style wise you might leap right away to looking at "other than early" for the win. But if one of the earlies is DEFINITELY faster than the others at the FIRST CALL well now the picture changes. The distance of todays race is 8.5f on the dirt NO need to work the race fast. Jim slowed my ass down a bit a couple weeks back. __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

10-15-2006, 01:15 PM	#2
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	the 1 horse Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

10-15-2006, 01:15 PM	#3
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	the 2 horse Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

10-15-2006, 01:16 PM	#4
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	the 3 horse Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

10-15-2006, 01:17 PM	#5
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	the 4 horse Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

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RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	the 5 horse Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

10-15-2006, 11:00 PM	#7
dugoutgold Grade 1 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 206	Well Rich and Jim, here is my attempt at this. Hopefully I am at least partly correct on somethings. With that in mind here we go.. No meaningfull tandems that I could see here. #1 S type running line 9 won against this call 47.1 #2 S type running line 5 a mile race but a 47.1 call #3 S type from start to finish, WOOF!!! out!! #4 EP or E best race was line 10 but against a much slower pace, line 5 seems the correct line against this field, out! #5 Ep type line 4 #6 E type (ntl=need to lead) both 5 and 6 have the same 47.4 call, hmmmm #7 prob an EP type here from line 10 at a slower pace, another woof woof, out! #8 S type on the dirt here, running line 3 against a 47.3 the 6 will try for the lead with the 5 right on his cabbose, both should burn it up setting up this rae to run sustained. This is a far as I can take it thus far but I hope I got something right Doug

10-16-2006, 02:34 AM	#8
emilio840 Grade 1 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I live in Toronto, Ontario, can Posts: 220	The Practice Race Running styles: #1 S #2 S #3 S #4 P #5 E #6 E #7 S #8 S The Tandems are: 2,3, 8 Poco Bueno 2,3, Criminal Mind 2,6 Seeking the show 3,6 Esclarecido The 1ST call Projeceted Pace is 47.3 The way I see the race is that 6 should take the lead and wire the field. Because in his last race he ran head and head for the first two calls at a 47.1 and he still managed to get 2nd. The #5 can not do better than a 47.3 The only two horses that I am afraid of is the #2 horse because he beat the 6 in the tandem race. But, the #6 did not get the lead in that race. The other horse I am afraid of is that Sprinter the #7 horse. He looks to be the fastest horse in here, But his last 4 races were REALLY BAD.

10-16-2006, 03:29 AM	#9
Turbulator Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 467	I like the 1 and the 8.