Saturday night - Sam Houston Turf - 2/11/17 - Pace and Cap

RichieP · 02-11-2017, 08:51 AM

Looking around at some races this morning. I remember being at the "table' in Jersey years ago with Bill V and crew and we used to love to play Sam Houston at night. I happened to see it was running tonight and saw this turf route in the 10th race finale.

Please have a look and feel free to chime in if interested. All "looks" are welcome

Here are the entries and tandems:

RichieP · 02-11-2017, 09:08 AM

I've marked my contenders and their Power Lines. Here they are along with various readout screens.

RichieP · 02-11-2017, 09:10 AM

The field

RichieP · 02-11-2017, 09:13 AM

con't

gandalf380 · 02-11-2017, 03:58 PM

This race does not look like a lot of speed to me. The #4 Under Review will be up close and I am looking for it to run a big race. It obviously has serious physical problems but looks ready to run. This horse is training well for his first start off a layoff and runs well fresh.

PeteC · 02-11-2017, 09:58 PM

Greetings Rich....The 4 is scratched here...

The 1 and 5 are the only e/p’s in the race. I project the pace of the last line of #5 (49.0 114.2). My contenders against this pace are the 1 and 7. The 1 has raced all over the place and has done well against faster paces on the turf at Tam and WO. It has won WTW and from 2nd and 3rd position at the 1C. The 7 has won running OTE against a faster pace too. Hard for me to compare their pacelines from various tracks but he 1 runs closer to the pace though so I’ll call it 1-7.

Lt1 · 02-11-2017, 11:58 PM

Evening folks. I just saw this so I took a quick look. I'm not a match up specialist but rather prefer to use the compounded ratings. I 'm using the newer version of RDSS. I used line2 for the 5 l9 for the 1 and line1 for the 7. Based on RX 3 readings I'll go with 5-1-7
Tim G

RichieP · 02-12-2017, 08:12 AM

The #4 was scratched.

The winning #8 bumrushed the field in the stretch pulling away at the end for the win.

Didn't help me at all and I tore up my tickets

Thanks guys for chiming in

Here is the result chart

Bill V. · 02-12-2017, 07:25 PM

Hi Rich

I never noticed the race Bummer

Hey Rich Next time maybe you could post up in the General forum or Race of interest forum that you have a race down in the Matchers area

i have not even been thinking of looking down here since Pook's contest ended.

i am down loading the race now, i probably will come up with something similar to Tim LT1 using RX3 so I'm going to go old school, in honor of the table

Bill V. · 02-12-2017, 08:00 PM

work up

8.0 T 4+ CL 10000

Open claimer - looking for a logical dropper, late energy, strong VDC ( maybe a binder improver
Using val 4

Horse 1 No turf last 3 rces so i will go to line 4 7.0 turf Speed rating 79
Horse 2 No line No recent form Line 2 effort is a red flag
Horse 3 No line No resent turf form lost as the favorite in line 1 now moves up Danger Red Flag
Horse 4 Scr
Horse 5 Line 1 or 2 75/73 Speed ratings Line 1 was also a + paceline either line 1- 2 F6 says line either one
Horse 6 Unknown N recent Turf form ?
Horse 7 Line 1 73 speed rating + race same class, Positive
Horse 8 Line 5 excuse line 1 and 2 line 1 is 5.0 line 2 is on the dirt 8.3 furlongs
Lines 3,4 and 5 are turf lines but Val 4 is not showing line 4 so its between line 3 and 5
Line 3 is 8.8 BL NG. line 5 is a + race so I will use it.
Horse 9 Line 1 is not a plus race It is at this class but the speed rating is only 69
Line 3 is not a + race but hs a 73 speed rating at 25000 Line 4 is a 78 speed rating at 15000
168 days is a lonng way to go for a best ever Sspeed rating , even though its not a plus race
I will use line 3 becuse line 1 is the first try at Sam Houston
Horse 10 Not in this lifetime

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            HOU0211 10 8.0 T CL 4+  $9,000 CP=$10,000 10:24PM
                                PACELINE DATA
# PN NAME LdNT 1STC  2NDC  FINC   BL1   BL2   BLS   BLF  SR     TRKDISTS

1  1 RICO 4p   46.6 111.2 137.2  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  79     FE  7.0T
2  5 SAINT1 1  48.8 113.8 138.2  0.00  0.00  0.15  1.00  73     HOU 8.5T
3  5 SAINT2    48.3 113.1 137.8  0.00  0.00  0.50  1.30  75     RET 8.0T
4  7 CABER1 1  48.8 113.8 138.2  7.00  2.10  1.60  1.50  73     HOU 8.5T
5  8 ISH R5    48.8 112.8 136.4  6.10  5.20  3.60  2.30  81     RP  8.5T
6  9 LET'S3    49.1 113.4 137.4  2.30  2.70  2.30  5.20  73     RP  8.0T

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             HOU0211 10 8.0 T CL 4+  $9,000 CP=$10,000 10:24PM

                      LATE/EARLY DIFFERENCE GRAPH (VAL4)
 # PNcNAME LdT                      LATE|EARLY                          TOT-R
_______________________________________________________________________________
 1 1 RICO 4p      4.0                   |                             161.1-4
                                        |--->
_______________________________________________________________________________
 2 5 SAINT1 1   -16.0                   |                             160.8-5
                         <---------------|
_______________________________________________________________________________
 3 5 SAINT2     -10.7                   |                             161.1-3
                              <---------|
_______________________________________________________________________________
 4 7 CABER1 1   -19.7                   |                             160.7-6
                     <------------------|
_______________________________________________________________________________
 5 8 ISH R5     -24.1                   |                             164.7-1
                <-----------------------|
_______________________________________________________________________________
 6 9 LET'S3     -17.2                   |                             162.2-2
                       <----------------|
_______________________________________________________________________________
                  EX-L    V-L    M-L   <E>   M-E    V-E    EX-E

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  HOU0211 10 8.0 T CL 4+  $9,000 CP=$10,000 10:24PM

                       INCREMENTAL MATCH-UP GRAPH (VAL4)
┌───────────┬────────────────────┬─────────────────────┬──────────────────────┐
│# PNcNAME L│         1F         │         2F          │     3F+TOTAL PACE    │
├───────────┼────────────────────│─────────────────────┼──────────────────────│
│1  1 RICO 4│                 1->│         3->         │ 6->                  │
├───────────┼────────────────────│─────────────────────┼──────────────────────│
│2  5 SAINT1│          3->       │ 6->                 │               2->    │
├───────────┼────────────────────│─────────────────────┼──────────────────────│
│3  5 SAINT2│              2->   │ 5->                 │ 5->                  │
├───────────┼────────────────────│─────────────────────┼──────────────────────│
│4  7 CABER1│  6->               │     4->             │           3->        │
├───────────┼────────────────────│─────────────────────┼──────────────────────│
│5  8 ISH R5│  5->               │                  1->│                   1->│
├───────────┼────────────────────│─────────────────────┼──────────────────────│
│6  9 LET'S3│      4->           │             2->     │               2->    │
└───────────┴────────────────────┴─────────────────────┴──────────────────────┘

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             HOU0211 10 8.0 T CL 4+  $9,000 CP=$10,000 10:24PM

                         THE  V A L I D A T O R (VAL4)

┌─┬───────────┬───┬───┬────────┐  ┌───┬───┬───┬───┬──┬──┬──┐  ┌──────┐  ┌────┐
│#│PN NAME LdT│SPR│BAL│   TOT-R│  │EPR│LPR│CPR│ TT│FW│HE│FX│  │V/DC-T│  │SUPP│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤  ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤  ├──────┤  ├────┤
│1│ 1 RICO 4p │ 79│  8│161.08-4│  │  1│  6│  2│  4│ 6│ 6│ 5│  │     6│  │   6│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤  ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤  ├──────┤  ├────┤
│2│ 5 SAINT1 1│ 73│  8│160.83-5│  │  3│  4│  4│  6│ 4│ 4│ 2│  │     2│  │   3│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤  ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤  ├──────┤  ├────┤
│3│ 5 SAINT2  │ 75│  9│161.11-3│  │  2│  5│  3│  5│ 5│ 5│ 4│  │     5│  │   4│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤  ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤  ├──────┤  ├────┤
│4│ 7 CABER1 1│ 73│  8│160.73-6│  │  6│  2│  6│  2│ 2│ 2│ 6│  │     3│  │   5│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤  ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤  ├──────┤  ├────┤
│5│ 8 ISH R5  │ 81│  2│164.67-1│  │  4│  1│  1│  1│ 1│ 1│ 1│  │     1│  │   1│
├─┼───────────┼───┼───┼────────┤  ├───┼───┼───┼───┼──┼──┼──┤  ├──────┤  ├────┤
│6│ 9 LET'S3  │ 73│  7│162.23-2│  │  5│  3│  5│  3│ 3│ 3│ 3│  │     2│  │   2│
└─┴───────────┴───┴───┴────────┘  └───┴───┴───┴───┴──┴──┴──┘  └──────┘  └────┘

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   HOU0211 10 8.0 T CL 4+  $9,000 CP=$10,000 10:24PM

                      BOTTOM LINE -- BETTING LINE (VAL4)

HIDE#  PNcNAME LdT  SR  BAL    LS TIE ODDS   TRKDISTS  M/L DAYS AGE

    5   8 ISH R5    81    2  23.0     EVEN   RP  8.5T  8/1   15   5

    6   9 LET'S3    73    7  17.0      5-2   RP  8.0T 12/1   14   4

    4   7 CABER1 1  73    8  13.0      4-1   HOU 8.5T  4/1   14  12

    2   5 SAINT1 1  73    8  12.5      9-2   HOU 8.5T  5/2   14   8

    3   5 SAINT2    75    9  12.3      9-2   RET 8.0T  5/2   14   8

    1   1 RICO 4p   79    8   9.8      6-1   FE  7.0T  6/1   32   7

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SYNTHESIS POWER RANKINGS AND FRACTALS
                  ┌──┬─┬─┬────┬────┐┌─────┐          │    PRIM     │  SUPP   │
                  │ B│L│T│PRIM│SUPP││FRACT│          │E│L│C│T│H│F│F│S│F│E│T│T│
┌─┬───────────┬───┤ A│S│O├──┬─┼──┬─┤├─┬─┬─┤┌───┬────┐│P│P│P│T│E│W│X│P│X│N│S│P│
│#│PNcNAME LdT│ SR│ L│P│T│LS│R│LS│R││E│L│N││ESP│SCBL││R│R│R│ │ │ │ │N│ │T│ │P│
├─┼───────────┼───┼──┼─┼─┼──┼─┼──┼─┤├─┼─┼─┤├───┼────┤├─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┤
│1│ 1 RICO 4p │ 79│ 8│3│4│30│6│25│6││2│6│6││PRE│    ││1│6│2│4│6│6│5│6│5│6│2│6│
│2│ 5 SAINT1 1│ 73│ 8│4│5│27│4│18│3││5│4│4││LAT│ 6.6││3│4│4│6│4│4│2│3│2│3│5│5│
│3│ 5 SAINT2  │ 75│ 9│5│3│29│5│21│4││3│5│5││LAT│ 4.7││2│5│3│5│5│5│4│5│4│5│4│3│
│4│ 7 CABER1 1│ 73│ 8│1│6│26│3│24│5││6│3│3││LAT│ 7.3││6│2│6│2│2│2│6│4│6│4│6│4│
│5│ 8 ISH R5  │ 81│ 2│2│1│10│1│ 5│1││1│1│1││LAT│ 4.0││4│1│1│1│1│1│1│1│1│1│1│1│
│6│ 9 LET'S3  │ 73│ 7│6│2│25│2│12│2││4│2│2││LAT│ 5.1││5│3│5│3│3│3│3│2│3│2│3│2│
└─┴───────────┴───┴──┴─┴─┴──┴─┴──┴─┘└─└─┴─┘└───┴────┘└─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┴─┘

winner

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             HOU0211 10 8.0 T CL 4+  $9,000 CP=$10,000 10:24PM             8/10
JOCK/TRAIN       R   W   P   S   W%        R  W  P  S  EARNINGS   W%      EPS  R
PARKER, DESHAW  21   7   1   4   33 LIFE  23  3  2  1    78,826   13    3,427  5
DAVIDSON, M     31   1   4   5    3 CURR   1  0  0  0       276    0      276  4
                                    PAST  10  1  0  0    16,120   10    1,612  7
ML= 8/1                             T-RT  17  3  2  1    76,823   18    4,519  3
  8 ISH RULES                AGE=5  OFF-T  1  0  0  0
 COMMENT:
                      EQUALIZED, NORMALIZED AND ADJUSTED
L DAYSTRK RCODISTSd 1STC  2NDC  FINC   BL1   BL2   BLS   BLF  SR  ESP     L PI
1   15HOU 8FM 5.0Tp 47.6 113.4 137.9  1.80  2.10  3.20  4.00  71          1
2   72RP  5FT 8.3D  46.6 111.1 137.4  4.60 12.60 21.10 25.80  52          2
3  133RP  8FM 8.5T  47.0 111.1 135.6 15.70  9.90  7.70  8.80  78          3
4  155RP  5FM 8.0T              0.0
5[ 182RP  4FM 8.5T  48.8 112.8 136.4  6.10  5.20  3.60  2.30  81          5    ]
6  210LS  8FM 7.5Tp 48.0 113.7 137.3  4.50  4.10  2.90  3.40  75          6
7  237LS  7FM 8.0T  50.0 114.1 138.5  2.80  4.30  6.90  6.30  66          7
8  252LS  5FT 8.0D  48.3 112.6 136.8  2.20  3.10  7.50 12.30  68          8
9  351HOU 9FM 8.5T  48.6 112.7 136.9 10.50  5.20  9.30  5.50  75          9
A  364HOU 1FM 8.5T  49.2 113.6 137.6  2.00  2.00  0.00  0.00  77          A
                                    DETAILS
L TYPE           PU/CP JOCKEY         PP FN FD    ODDSF COMMENT
1 CL-4+C        15,000 DIEGO, IRAM     8  5  8    2.90  3W TURN, NO MENACE
2 CL-3+         15,000 MCNEIL, BRYAN   7  8  8   27.40  THROUGH AFTER HALF
3 OC-3+C        35,000 VAZQUEZ, RAMON  1  9 11   28.60  INSIDE, BUMP,NO MENACE
4 OC-3+C        50,000 CABRERA, DAVID  4  7  8   14.60  VIED 3W, FALTERED
5[AL-3+         40,000 CABRERA, DAVID  2  4  6   25.20  MILD RALLY, NO THREAT,
6 AL-3+NW2      23,000 QUINONEZ, LUIS  1  6 12   16.10  RAIL 1ST TURN,2P 2ND
7 AL-3+NW2      23,000 SORENSON, DANN  5  7  8   20.10  4W TURNS,STEADIED 3/8
8 OC-3+NW2      35,000 SORENSON, DANN  2  4  6    9.00  EAGER,RAIL TURNS,EMPTY
9 OC-4+NW2      30,000 CHACALTANA, DO  9  9 11    4.00  UNHURRIED, NO THREAT,
A AL-4+NW1      20,000 SORENSON, DANN  5  1 10    8.50  STALK, BID 2W, HELD ON
                                   WORK OUTS
 4D(MY)HOU: 50.2B  5D(FT)HOU:101.6B  5D(MY)HOU:104.0B  4D(MY)HOU: 50.0B
 5D(FT)RP :103.8H  4D(FT)RP : 50.1B  4D(FT)RP : 50.3H  5D(FT)RP :102.6H
                                   FREQUENCY
WORK OUTS   21   31   41   49   77   98  119  161  168  188  195  217
RACES       15   72  133  155  182  210  237  252  351  364  378  472

02-11-2017, 08:51 AM	#1
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Saturday night - Sam Houston Turf - 2/11/17 Looking around at some races this morning. I remember being at the "table' in Jersey years ago with Bill V and crew and we used to love to play Sam Houston at night. I happened to see it was running tonight and saw this turf route in the 10th race finale. Please have a look and feel free to chime in if interested. All "looks" are welcome Here are the entries and tandems: Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

02-11-2017, 09:08 AM	#2
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	I've marked my contenders and their Power Lines. Here they are along with various readout screens. Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

02-11-2017, 09:10 AM	#3
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	The field Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

02-11-2017, 09:58 PM	#6
PeteC Grade 1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 611	Sam Houston Greetings Rich....The 4 is scratched here... The 1 and 5 are the only e/p’s in the race. I project the pace of the last line of #5 (49.0 114.2). My contenders against this pace are the 1 and 7. The 1 has raced all over the place and has done well against faster paces on the turf at Tam and WO. It has won WTW and from 2nd and 3rd position at the 1C. The 7 has won running OTE against a faster pace too. Hard for me to compare their pacelines from various tracks but he 1 runs closer to the pace though so I’ll call it 1-7.

02-11-2017, 11:58 PM	#7
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,503	Evening folks. I just saw this so I took a quick look. I'm not a match up specialist but rather prefer to use the compounded ratings. I 'm using the newer version of RDSS. I used line2 for the 5 l9 for the 1 and line1 for the 7. Based on RX 3 readings I'll go with 5-1-7 Tim G __________________ Trust but verify Last edited by Lt1; 02-12-2017 at 12:15 AM.

02-11-2017, 09:13 AM	#4
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	con't Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

02-11-2017, 03:58 PM	#5
gandalf380 Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: central islip ny Posts: 1,196	Houston turf tonite This race does not look like a lot of speed to me. The #4 Under Review will be up close and I am looking for it to run a big race. It obviously has serious physical problems but looks ready to run. This horse is training well for his first start off a layoff and runs well fresh. __________________ Check out my daily picks for Saratoga in the Saratoga Special http://www.thisishorseracing.com

02-12-2017, 08:12 AM	#8
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	The #4 was scratched. The winning #8 bumrushed the field in the stretch pulling away at the end for the win. Didn't help me at all and I tore up my tickets Thanks guys for chiming in Here is the result chart Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

02-12-2017, 07:25 PM	#9
Bill V. The egg man Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Carlsbad, California Posts: 10,005	Did Not See It Hi Rich I never noticed the race Bummer Hey Rich Next time maybe you could post up in the General forum or Race of interest forum that you have a race down in the Matchers area i have not even been thinking of looking down here since Pook's contest ended. i am down loading the race now, i probably will come up with something similar to Tim LT1 using RX3 so I'm going to go old school, in honor of the table

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