BPP & PL Have Same Top 3 Horses - Pace and Cap

Lt1 · 01-13-2026, 10:24 AM

On one of the training vids I pointed out that when BPP & PL had the same top3 picks[regardless of the order] that 1 would win between 80-85% of the time. That was based on when top class horses were running. Now that we have entered the winter season, when many low class races abound, I decided to do a quick 100 race survey to see what came up. The trks used were Parx, MVR,LRL,& GP. Here are the results
RACES Wins Places Shows Outs
100 75 17 4 4
So as you can see the w& fell however take note that one of these 3 won or placed 92 times out of the 100 races. Still a pretty nice %. In fact when this situation arises I tend to make 1 of them my key horse for the race.
Tim

stormbringer · 01-13-2026, 09:31 PM

very good to know I'm gonna check so of mine to see what I come with.

thanks Lt you do so much thank you!

Lt1 · 01-14-2026, 09:08 AM

Anytime Stormy.
Tim

shoeless · 01-14-2026, 01:18 PM

Thanks Tim

Jeff

Lt1 · 01-14-2026, 03:01 PM

You are welcome Jeff,
Tim

DELMARGRANT · 01-14-2026, 03:34 PM

Great work Tim! Thanks so much! What do you do in like Parx 2nd race today(01/14/26)? I had the exacta it paid $ 115 for 2 dollars but the 4 was 5th in pl than no BPP number but was top on my BLBL screen. The second place horse the 5 was 2nd in PL and 3 rd in BP. Thanks

dadams6357 · 01-15-2026, 08:45 AM

Tim
Thanks for the interesting research that you do.
Don

Lt1 · 01-15-2026, 11:36 AM

Anytime Don.
Tim

Lt1 · 01-15-2026, 01:31 PM

Grant you need to trust your work. Do nor worry what I or anyone else does
Tim

kahunab · 01-15-2026, 04:19 PM

Great Observation and Great Study response.

Dick

01-13-2026, 10:24 AM	#1
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,371	BPP & PL Have Same Top 3 Horses On one of the training vids I pointed out that when BPP & PL had the same top3 picks[regardless of the order] that 1 would win between 80-85% of the time. That was based on when top class horses were running. Now that we have entered the winter season, when many low class races abound, I decided to do a quick 100 race survey to see what came up. The trks used were Parx, MVR,LRL,& GP. Here are the results RACES Wins Places Shows Outs 100 75 17 4 4 So as you can see the w& fell however take note that one of these 3 won or placed 92 times out of the 100 races. Still a pretty nice %. In fact when this situation arises I tend to make 1 of them my key horse for the race. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

01-14-2026, 09:08 AM	#3
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,371	Anytime Stormy. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

01-14-2026, 03:01 PM	#5
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,371	You are welcome Jeff, Tim __________________ Trust but verify

01-15-2026, 11:36 AM	#8
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,371	Anytime Don. Tim __________________ Trust but verify

01-15-2026, 01:31 PM	#9
Lt1 Grade 1 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Valley Stream NY Posts: 11,371	Grant you need to trust your work. Do nor worry what I or anyone else does Tim __________________ Trust but verify

01-13-2026, 09:31 PM	#2
stormbringer Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 426	very good to know I'm gonna check so of mine to see what I come with. thanks Lt you do so much thank you!

01-14-2026, 01:18 PM	#4
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,609	Thanks Tim Jeff

01-14-2026, 03:34 PM	#6
DELMARGRANT Grade 1 Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 148	Great work Tim! Thanks so much! What do you do in like Parx 2nd race today(01/14/26)? I had the exacta it paid $ 115 for 2 dollars but the 4 was 5th in pl than no BPP number but was top on my BLBL screen. The second place horse the 5 was 2nd in PL and 3 rd in BP. Thanks

01-15-2026, 08:45 AM	#7
dadams6357 Grade 1 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Downers Grove, Il Posts: 512	Tim Thanks for the interesting research that you do. Don

01-15-2026, 04:19 PM	#10
kahunab Grade 1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 312	Great Observation and Great Study response. Dick __________________ Haakon 47 'Something magical happens when you bring together a group of people from different disciplines with a common purpose.' Mark Stefik Palo Alto Research Centre Fellow

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