Amazing EBay item - Pace and Cap

RichieP · 07-15-2006, 12:47 PM

Bill
I noticed all the followup's and software is gone. could this "item" on Ebay be the reason?

looks to me like the site is being " whore'd out"

" you will receive free of charge a website ,,,,,,,,," what a ****ing joke man.What's next? someone charging folks for YOUR website????

who posts here from Troy NY???

dugoutgold · 07-15-2006, 01:39 PM

Gee Rich how much should charge an hr too help the Ebayers with this!! I remember when someone was doing the same thingwith Guys stuff a few years ago. Told him what good is it if you dont know how to use it,Correctly I might add

Now that we are in the consulting businness we can get Ted to write a program that automaticly charges the ERRRRR client!!

Too funny

gl45 · 07-15-2006, 01:59 PM

What a joke.
I hope they all loose money with.
Pino

gl45 · 07-15-2006, 01:59 PM

What a joke.
I hope they all looooooose money with.
Pino

admin · 07-15-2006, 02:16 PM

I have a good Idea who this is

First I am very sorry that I had to pull EVERYTHING
off Bindfold except my videos which really are just my interpitation of the methodology

Everything is safe in the site data base and I have copies

This person may or may not have used me to sell Mr Sartins property
If thats what he did thats wrong

Look I have no problem people selling stuff on ebay if they or a relative
has no use for it If they sell programs
I feel very bad for Ted because he loses this money
but people can do what they want,with there own stuff
I pulled the stuff off Bindfold because this person May have been looking to sell our site and our workbooks and follow ups

This person needs a mirror and he needs to look at himself. He is a non winner
He went for the short term of selling instead of READING
He had access to $1000's of dollars worth of programs manuals and EVERY
FOLLOW UP plus the possible trust and friendship of the best users of this
methodology ANYWHERE including former PRICO charter memebers
He could have been a winner at the windows and been a much more
better person who believed in his ability to make money wher others could not

He decided he could not win or stopped trying or maybe he needed some dough for a bankroll, Thats sad. I made over $1000 betting $2.00
starting with a $20 bankroll and we all know my limitations with the
methodogy and handicapping other than best of the last 3 and wagercapping

Any way, Look I will beat these people. Some how It will come to me what to do, So that we can share this stuff amonst the true dedicated users
here .

That group is a very small percent of the over 200 Members we have
if thats what it needs to be than maybe Doc will guide me to follow him
and keep it small and for winners only

Everything is safe I will send you what you want to read
in the mean time
email me at Bindfold @ y + a - h * o = o . c o m

Thank you for your time
Bill Varone
Admin
Pace and Cap / VDC Messenger / Bindfold

turfcraft · 07-15-2006, 02:35 PM

This really is terrible I looked foward to reading the followup's
every day.This is like having something very valueble stolen.
I really never post here but this is one of the most informative
sites on the internet.To the person or persons who did this rot in hell!!!!
If we could set up a way to view followup's that would be great.
I don't know if a password site would even work.

RichieP · 07-15-2006, 02:49 PM

My suggestion:

make the followups and software available to " Pace & Cap Charter Members"
ONLY.

Fee to join - $ 150.00 - LESS than a 2 year cost of subscribing to the followup when it was out.

Give EVERYONE who has donated to you a 150 % credit from what they have given u already toward that number.

So if someone like Bob Cochran who has already donated
$ 100 bucks ( btw hasnt even posted yet cause he's busy) tap his donation up 50% to the $ 150.00 level.

Same thing with guys who have been supporters here Bill. Also consider tapping up guys who do work for you say in helping by sending followups to you etc etc.

These are the people who are WITH you. YOU know who they are. Forget all the PHONIES who talk a good game but do **** when it comes time to supporting you and/or your site Bill.

Time to realize that like it or not you must begin treating this site like a BUSINESS.

revamp the Members area with new password protection. put ALL followups,software, etc etc in THERE if you can.

Leave the "plain vanilla" stuff out here in the open for the general public.

Any product or website with the name Sartin attached IS going to be targeted for exploitation by folks ESPECIALLY when software and programmers are part of that site. Please consider what I posted Bill.

Horse racing is a BUSINESS.

Richie

admin · 07-15-2006, 03:04 PM

Thanks Rich

Meanwhile I am killing them at PHILLY!!!!!!
I am following your word Rich I'm focusing on my work

I sure will give your opinion and any others my full attention

Mr Turfcraft
I am very very sorry i had to take away from you
You are the type of person I wonder about when I have to do stuff like this
please everyone just email me in the mean time I will get you what you want
Bill

RichieP · 07-15-2006, 03:21 PM

we have a member here who emails me privately a lot. He is VERY sharp but likes to be under the radar. He works very effectively this way

He has just finished filing a complaint with Ebay and they have acknowledged him in a return email and are CLOSELY looking into the matter.

I have forwarded his emails and Ebay replies to Binder.

Richie

shoeless · 07-15-2006, 03:33 PM

Bill,Can you send some of your focus this way please I NEED HELP.

07-15-2006, 12:47 PM	#1
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Amazing EBay item Bill I noticed all the followup's and software is gone. could this "item" on Ebay be the reason? looks to me like the site is being " whore'd out" " you will receive free of charge a website ,,,,,,,,," what a ****ing joke man.What's next? someone charging folks for YOUR website???? who posts here from Troy NY??? Attached Images __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

07-15-2006, 01:39 PM	#2
dugoutgold Grade 1 Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 206	Lmao!!!!!!!! Gee Rich how much should charge an hr too help the Ebayers with this!! I remember when someone was doing the same thingwith Guys stuff a few years ago. Told him what good is it if you dont know how to use it,Correctly I might add Now that we are in the consulting businness we can get Ted to write a program that automaticly charges the ERRRRR client!! Too funny

07-15-2006, 02:16 PM	#5
admin Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,643	Non winner I have a good Idea who this is First I am very sorry that I had to pull EVERYTHING off Bindfold except my videos which really are just my interpitation of the methodology Everything is safe in the site data base and I have copies This person may or may not have used me to sell Mr Sartins property If thats what he did thats wrong Look I have no problem people selling stuff on ebay if they or a relative has no use for it If they sell programs I feel very bad for Ted because he loses this money but people can do what they want,with there own stuff I pulled the stuff off Bindfold because this person May have been looking to sell our site and our workbooks and follow ups This person needs a mirror and he needs to look at himself. He is a non winner He went for the short term of selling instead of READING He had access to $1000's of dollars worth of programs manuals and EVERY FOLLOW UP plus the possible trust and friendship of the best users of this methodology ANYWHERE including former PRICO charter memebers He could have been a winner at the windows and been a much more better person who believed in his ability to make money wher others could not He decided he could not win or stopped trying or maybe he needed some dough for a bankroll, Thats sad. I made over $1000 betting $2.00 starting with a $20 bankroll and we all know my limitations with the methodogy and handicapping other than best of the last 3 and wagercapping Any way, Look I will beat these people. Some how It will come to me what to do, So that we can share this stuff amonst the true dedicated users here . That group is a very small percent of the over 200 Members we have if thats what it needs to be than maybe Doc will guide me to follow him and keep it small and for winners only Everything is safe I will send you what you want to read in the mean time email me at *Bindfold @ y + a - h o = o . c o m** Thank you for your time Bill Varone Admin Pace and Cap / VDC Messenger / Bindfold Last edited by admin; 07-15-2006 at 02:59 PM.

07-15-2006, 02:35 PM	#6
turfcraft AlwNW1X Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5	Followup's This really is terrible I looked foward to reading the followup's every day.This is like having something very valueble stolen. I really never post here but this is one of the most informative sites on the internet.To the person or persons who did this rot in hell!!!! If we could set up a way to view followup's that would be great. I don't know if a password site would even work.

07-15-2006, 02:49 PM	#7
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	My suggestion: make the followups and software available to " Pace & Cap Charter Members" ONLY. Fee to join - $ 150.00 - LESS than a 2 year cost of subscribing to the followup when it was out. Give EVERYONE who has donated to you a 150 % credit from what they have given u already toward that number. So if someone like Bob Cochran who has already donated $ 100 bucks ( btw hasnt even posted yet cause he's busy) tap his donation up 50% to the $ 150.00 level. Same thing with guys who have been supporters here Bill. Also consider tapping up guys who do work for you say in helping by sending followups to you etc etc. These are the people who are WITH you. YOU know who they are. Forget all the PHONIES who talk a good game but do **** when it comes time to supporting you and/or your site Bill. Time to realize that like it or not you must begin treating this site like a BUSINESS. revamp the Members area with new password protection. put ALL followups,software, etc etc in THERE if you can. Leave the "plain vanilla" stuff out here in the open for the general public. Any product or website with the name Sartin attached IS going to be targeted for exploitation by folks ESPECIALLY when software and programmers are part of that site. Please consider what I posted Bill. Horse racing is a BUSINESS. Richie __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!" Last edited by RichieP; 07-15-2006 at 02:51 PM.

07-15-2006, 01:59 PM	#3
gl45 Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 878	What a joke. I hope they all loose money with. Pino

07-15-2006, 03:04 PM	#8
admin Administrator Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,643	They cant touch me Thanks Rich Meanwhile I am killing them at PHILLY!!!!!! I am following your word Rich I'm focusing on my work I sure will give your opinion and any others my full attention Mr Turfcraft I am very very sorry i had to take away from you You are the type of person I wonder about when I have to do stuff like this please everyone just email me in the mean time I will get you what you want Bill

07-15-2006, 03:21 PM	#9
RichieP Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 7,019	Member stepping forward to help we have a member here who emails me privately a lot. He is VERY sharp but likes to be under the radar. He works very effectively this way He has just finished filing a complaint with Ebay and they have acknowledged him in a return email and are CLOSELY looking into the matter. I have forwarded his emails and Ebay replies to Binder. Richie __________________ "Grampy I'm talking to you!"

07-15-2006, 03:33 PM	#10
shoeless Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 4,612	Bill,Can you send some of your focus this way please I NEED HELP.