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Ted Craven · 11-07-2021, 06:34 PM

Hi Kisha, Breeders' Cup races are becoming more and more international, thus European and now Japanese horses are competing - and winning. Since RDSS depends mostly on running lines with timed segments, beaten lengths and running position, along with inter-track and daily-track variants.

Thus, many races which have strong foreign runners (evidenced by Morning Line Odds or Live Odds, and general chatter) become unplayable except by using certain angles such as the TrackMaster SR compared to the TrackMaster RC (Race Class) which puts international horses on a comparable footing with North American horses.

Myself, I passed most races on Saturday (and lost my bet on the Classic) though I know some worked them. Most of them with international runners were too risky for me. I would not obsess too much about losing on those kind of races (and would not recommend playing those races with only RDSS tools). There are many, many more suitable races for using RDSS/Sartin Methodology at many other North American tracks.

You have to use the appropriate tools for the racing venues you focus on. RDSS also is of no use for harness racing, or for most international throughbred racing. I work Hong Kong regularly but use other analysis tools. I wish I could adapt RDSS for that racing: maybe one day, though not soon.

You can find oddball, small track codes at Equibase, here: https://www.equibase.com/products/racedates.cfm (ATO = Atokad, BKF = Black Foot

).

There are also special codes for collections of races which either cross different tracks or different days, like BCC, BCD and BCT which provide PPs for BC Special Doubles of a certain race on Friday 11/5 combined with a race on Saturday 11/6. There's no reason to buy those (in future) - just buy the full card on Day 1 and the full card of Day 2 of the BC Races. There are other specialty codes like EQA, EQB ... EQx which provide PPs for specialty bets on races at different tracks - e.g. Friday 11/5's Stronach Pick 5 covering 5 races at different Stronach/Monarch owned tracks across the country.

Good luck with your International racing! I wish I knew how to analyse Japanese races, and had access to pools other than the very shallow non-comingled ones provided by North American ADWs. I do like Hong Kong racing.

Ted

11-07-2021, 06:34 PM	#35
Ted Craven Grade 1 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Nanaimo, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 8,854	Hi Kisha, Breeders' Cup races are becoming more and more international, thus European and now Japanese horses are competing - and winning. Since RDSS depends mostly on running lines with timed segments, beaten lengths and running position, along with inter-track and daily-track variants. Thus, many races which have strong foreign runners (evidenced by Morning Line Odds or Live Odds, and general chatter) become unplayable except by using certain angles such as the TrackMaster SR compared to the TrackMaster RC (Race Class) which puts international horses on a comparable footing with North American horses. Myself, I passed most races on Saturday (and lost my bet on the Classic) though I know some worked them. Most of them with international runners were too risky for me. I would not obsess too much about losing on those kind of races (and would not recommend playing those races with only RDSS tools). There are many, many more suitable races for using RDSS/Sartin Methodology at many other North American tracks. You have to use the appropriate tools for the racing venues you focus on. RDSS also is of no use for harness racing, or for most international throughbred racing. I work Hong Kong regularly but use other analysis tools. I wish I could adapt RDSS for that racing: maybe one day, though not soon. You can find oddball, small track codes at Equibase, here: https://www.equibase.com/products/racedates.cfm (ATO = Atokad, BKF = Black Foot ). There are also special codes for collections of races which either cross different tracks or different days, like BCC, BCD and BCT which provide PPs for BC Special Doubles of a certain race on Friday 11/5 combined with a race on Saturday 11/6. There's no reason to buy those (in future) - just buy the full card on Day 1 and the full card of Day 2 of the BC Races. There are other specialty codes like EQA, EQB ... EQx which provide PPs for specialty bets on races at different tracks - e.g. Friday 11/5's Stronach Pick 5 covering 5 races at different Stronach/Monarch owned tracks across the country. Good luck with your International racing! I wish I knew how to analyse Japanese races, and had access to pools other than the very shallow non-comingled ones provided by North American ADWs. I do like Hong Kong racing. Ted __________________ RDSS - Racing Decision Support System™