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Doc
hello CheckMark, wish I had a name, Not a fan of screen names.
Kind of like the idea of friends sitting around a table to discuss winning.
Anyway Doc was a great man, He knew exactly what worked and made many people who were none winner into winners - I should know I am one of his successes,
There are many on pace and cap who he also helped many other here
who teach with varying takes that work well for them
Since you seem to want to learn I suggest reading The newer follow-ups
Latch onto one program and hone your contender and paceline skills
then you will always know Doc's greatness
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