[Mitch44]

Discipline in betting can and does reduce the effect of the takeout. At times we must take what the enemy gives us. Perhaps we can create an Exacta or P3 etc. to overcome the low odds that exists. We must always ask;how can I make money out of this race and capitalize on my handicapping? What is the risk verses reward for this situation? We also need to try and get good returns for little outlay or extension of our capital.

I agree that takeout for Exotics is a problem, particularity in Tri's, however if you have a key horse its worth the risk. The public make more mistakes on combination type bets (exotics) than they do on straight win bets. For one reason their too win oriented and never consider an improving horse going off at long odds, they also don't have the guts to pull the trigger on long odds horses.

Thinking of horses other than win can boost one's bankroll and lessen the takeout. Also no one that hits a good payoff whether a longshot or a good exotic bet ever thinks about takeout.

Sounds like you have an abundance of discipline ScottB, it'll serve you well and prevent runouts while increasing your bottom line. Good luck.

Mitch44