Hi, Bob.
I posted a couple of screenshots on this thread to show where to find them on the new Twinspires interface:
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthr...t=11990&page=3
All you need is a Twinspires account. No bets required. On the plus side of the ledger, both numbers are there and free. On the minus side, they are in different locations and a hassle to glean if you're including them in a spreadsheet, like I do from time to time.