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Tim Y 07-31-2009 11:47 AM

7/31
 
Saratoga sloppy off the turf
1) 2 3 7 9 12
3) 1a 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 11
4) 5 6 7
6) 5
7) 2
9) 5 6 12 13

Tim Y 07-31-2009 12:25 PM

Woodbine first :5: :6: :7: with :1: late

mikesal57 07-31-2009 12:37 PM

Tim..

just a small bet for me on WO 1st..

the 1-5-6 come out of the same race...but the 5 & 6 tried numerous times and with blin on the 7..maybe we'll get that late horse

the 1 is only 2nd out and has my bet

Tim Y 07-31-2009 12:41 PM

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Winning e/l's for OLDER horses are around -7 at nine furlongs. For maidens it is usually about 20-30% HIHGER

tfm 07-31-2009 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 58058)
Tim..

just a small bet for me on WO 1st..

the 1-5-6 come out of the same race...but the 5 & 6 tried numerous times and with blin on the 7..maybe we'll get that late horse

the 1 is only 2nd out and has my bet

While he certainly can improve 2nd time out, problem I have with this horse, as the chart indicates, is that he ran AFTER all the others had. He couldn't bid with the winner (or the 9) early, and only passed quitters. Maybe it was a prep and the xtra distance will help. But, with only 7 going, I wouldn't count on much of a pace collapse. If there is one, the 3, Ziggy Stardust, is more likely -- he still owes me for that 26:1 nose beat.

Tim Y 07-31-2009 12:52 PM

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Three is the classic "Bid, Hung" animal

tfm 07-31-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Y (Post 58061)
Three is the classic "Bid, Hung" animal

Not exactly. He's just not very good and needs the race to collapse in order to win. There's not a single race of his where he has actually 'bid'.

I'm going to put you back on ignore. So don't bother responding. Your lack of the basics is just laughable. You're just annoying.

Tim Y 07-31-2009 01:02 PM

:1: is trying to steal it ,.............a new maneuver for that one

Three tried to HANG but got by

Tim Y 07-31-2009 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tfm (Post 58062)
Not exactly. He's just not very good and needs the race to collapse in order to win. There's not a single race of his where he has actually 'bid'.

I'm going to put you back on ignore. So don't bother responding. Your lack of the basics is just laughable. You're just annoying.

No my lack of accepting DOGMA is what differentiates my understanding for the others

the KEY to parimutuel success

also I never respond to the person just the idea presented

mikesal57 07-31-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tfm (Post 58060)
While he certainly can improve 2nd time out, problem I have with this horse, as the chart indicates, is that he ran AFTER all the others had. He couldn't bid with the winner (or the 9) early, and only passed quitters. Maybe it was a prep and the xtra distance will help. But, with only 7 going, I wouldn't count on much of a pace collapse. If there is one, the 3, Ziggy Stardust, is more likely -- he still owes me for that 26:1 nose beat.

you got em this time!!!

nice :)

now tell me...who says trainer and/or jockey has nothing to do with a horserace.....I'm sure the trainer told the #1 to go to the lead and try to steal it..and to see 47.2...112:4 fractions...he was cooked!!


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