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partsnut 06-28-2007 12:48 PM

Definitions Needed ???
 
I was never really sure if I had a full understanding to some of the following terms as applied to the software we might be using.
I've heard them mentioned but never seen a clear explanation.
Possibly, I'm not looking in the right places.:D

1 - Linear Odds Line

2 - Non-Linear Odds line

3 - Fuzzy Logic

4 - Chaos

Please offer your definitions to these terms.

RichieP 06-28-2007 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by partsnut (Post 20644)
I was never really sure if I had a full understanding to some of the following terms as applied to the software we might be using.
I've heard them mentioned but never seen a clear explanation.
Possibly, I'm not looking in the right places.:D

1 - Linear Odds Line

2 - Non-Linear Odds line

3 - Fuzzy Logic

4 - Chaos

Please offer your definitions to these terms.

Hi Parts
1) don't know
2) don't know
3) don't know
4) what happened tween me and Deb last evening :eek: . racing wise don't know

Rich

admin 06-28-2007 02:15 PM

Thoughts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by partsnut (Post 20644)
I was never really sure if I had a full understanding to some of the following terms as applied to the software we might be using.
I've heard them mentioned but never seen a clear explanation.
Possibly, I'm not looking in the right places.:D

1 - Linear Odds Line

2 - Non-Linear Odds line

3 - Fuzzy Logic

4 - Chaos

Please offer your definitions to these terms.

Hi Bill

Linear odds line

In the programs in the Pl4 sythesis and validator series
The odds line is generated in a non linear method
In a linear genrated odds line the top score on the primary
factors would get an odds line that was base on 100
in the factors that make up the Primary line score
if you total up the numbers and the lowest totals would be the best
That low number would get the lowest odds for the race
and 1 would always be better than two two better than three
ect

Doc instead uses a non linear odds line by awarding more points for a # 1 ranking and some points for a 2nd and then totaling the
line score if a horse gets all ones in the Primary line score
it get a 24.5 line score This 24.5 is then usually a 8/5 odds
The non linear odds line doc uses does not add up to 100

Fuzzy logic darn it I just read a great example of that in the follow up
an I can't recall it right now Its in the 50 - 58 range
I will look for it

Chaos In 1991 (about) in the energy era
Doc started using chaos physics to make his programs
He needed to advance his methodology after MPH and Pace makes the race
made phase 111 numbers so widely available
It was easy to get winners but Doc knew that the odds were going down
on horses the methodology only was getting in the past
He got forumulas from a book called Natures Numbers
and applied these chaos formulas to his programs

I hope some one can help me out here
after all Im sitting in a van in 95 degree 1000% humitiy
and about ready to pass out

Really All your answers are in the follow ups and manuals
there are no secreat everthing in in there

Good skill and I hhope your search leads to more wins
GS
Bill

partsnut 06-28-2007 02:44 PM

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admin : I hope some one can help me out here
after all Im sitting in a van in 95 degree 1000% humitiy
and about ready to pass out

Bill, thank you for your help.

Go home turn on the A/C and get a cold beer.:cool:
Lifes too short, enjoy.

RichieP 06-28-2007 02:59 PM

Hey Parts and Bill,
please forgive me if you took my post as a lark. I HONESTLY do not know the terms and didnt want Parts to think I was not seeing his call for help.

Bill V you are amazing! The stuff you have stored in your head makes me think a nice nickname for you would be " Little Doc" :)

Richie

admin 06-28-2007 03:33 PM

Chaos
 
Hi Bill

thanks, I have two more stops
I will , and when I get home I think I have the chaos
manual scanned I will get it onto the Club area

Thanks Rich
I hope mom and Kianti are doing ok in this heat

GS
Bill

partsnut 06-28-2007 03:45 PM

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RichieP: Hey Parts and Bill,
please forgive me if you took my post as a lark. I HONESTLY do not know the terms and didnt want Parts to think I was not seeing his call for help.


Ritchie, most people wouldn't have a straight forward answer to my questions. You were honest about it. Nothing to feel bad about either.
We were all spoonfed these terms and for the most part not many could answer them as well.
However, Bill made an excellent effort.
I myself have an inquisitive nature. The more I know about something the better I like it. It separates the wheat from the chaff. The more I ask the more I learn. It lets me discern what is BS and what is not.


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