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Mitch44 06-25-2019 01:48 PM

Cailf. racing.
 
This article does not bode well for SA or racing in California.


https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...meets-approved


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Mitch44 06-25-2019 01:50 PM

Counterpoint
 
https://www.paulickreport.com/horse-...cus-elephants/


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elocutionist 06-25-2019 05:59 PM

I did read somewhere that PETA is trying to get enough signatures to have a ballot measure to eliminate racing in California. If they are successful, I believe it would have a good chance of passing.

Mitch44 11-14-2019 06:57 PM

The loudest voice.


Terrific article by Donna Brothers on PETA.


https://www.paulickreport.com/news/r...ta-is-a-bully/


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Bill V. 11-14-2019 07:12 PM

It is so sad
 
Anybody check out the fields at DMR today

Code:

Race 1  4 horses 3+
Race 2  4 horses  2YO
Race 3  6 horses 3+
Race 4  7 horses 2YO
Race 5  5 horses  3YO
Race 6  8 horses  3+F
Race 7  5 horses 3+
Race 8  10 horses 2YO

If you are like most of us here You don't play 2YO races
or fields less than 7 horses

So that leave 1 race race 6 Pitiful :o

MikeB 11-15-2019 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 124320)
Anybody check out the fields at DMR today

Code:

Race 1  4 horses 3+
Race 2  4 horses  2YO
Race 3  6 horses 3+
Race 4  7 horses 2YO
Race 5  5 horses  3YO
Race 6  8 horses  3+F
Race 7  5 horses 3+
Race 8  10 horses 2YO

If you are like most of us here You don't play 2YO races
or fields less than 7 horses

So that leave 1 race race 6 Pitiful :o


Races with 4 horses? That's nuts. I just looked at the charts from yesterday's races at Del Mar. Race 1, with 4 horses, had a WPS pool of $62 thousand. How can you keep a track open with that kind of money?

Race 3 had 6 horses. The horses that finished 5th and 6th got purse money of $351. Would it make sense for a trainer with a horse coming up to a race to toss it into a 4 horse field, especially a short sprint, and get paid $351 for a work-out?

Bill V. 11-15-2019 01:35 PM

Yes
 
Hi Mike B

Great points

Also besides the ridiculously short fields. One thing I have noticed is races for male horses must to be roughly 90% geldings

Where are all the horses suppose to come from?

Cal racing is all about making Owners and Trainers happy NOW

It is becoming clearer all the time. The owners and trainers realize the end is near for Socal racing. So they geld every horse for an advantage.
Then they keep the fields small so everybody gets paid.

Since the track, the trainers and the owners all seem to want only to win now
it is inevitable

MikeB 11-15-2019 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 124337)
Hi Mike B

Great points

Also besides the ridiculously short fields. One thing I have noticed is races for male horses must to be roughly 90% geldings

Where are all the horses suppose to come from?

Cal racing is all about making Owners and Trainers happy NOW

It is becoming clearer all the time. The owners and trainers realize the end is near for Socal racing. So they geld every horse for an advantage.
Then they keep the fields small so everybody gets paid.

Since the track, the trainers and the owners all seem to want only to win now
it is inevitable


It would be interesting to see the betting handle broken down between on and off track. Going to the track is a social event for a lot of those attending SA and Del Mar. Short fields aren't going to affect those people as much as it will turn off the simulcast bettors who have many options, and don't care about the food and the drinks and the sun shine.

tom 11-16-2019 05:45 PM

I think winter racing at SA will be dismal this year, with short dirt fields.
I am looking for Oaklawn to really set records this year, with "Hammer" working
there now. His connections with horsemen will hopefully bring a lot of horses in to fill cards. No turf, but this could be a big deal for them.

Mitch44 11-17-2019 09:54 AM

I agree Tom with short fields etc. at SA this winter meet. I think the time would be better spent switching to a Tapeda type syn. track.


Oaklawn is always a challenging meet with full fields, many shippers and very good racing. Prices also tend to be good with bigger fields and most have trouble getting a handle on the racing there. Yes a meet to look forward to. I also like Tampa and GP during the winter.


Mitch44


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