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Tim Y 05-19-2022 02:44 PM

Preakness musings
 
I seem to recall that Howard Sartin suggested repeatedly NOT to use a colts' KD line in evaluation of races beyond Louisville as it was too much of an outlier. Anyone else recall that??

Tim Y 05-19-2022 02:56 PM

First time though 8 5 4 fairly stand out in this edition of the Preakness

Lt1 05-19-2022 04:45 PM

You are correct Tim.
Tim G

Tim Y 05-19-2022 07:29 PM

Started as The Dinner Party Stakes in 1870. Winner THERE was Preakness owned by
Milton Sanford. The colt was named after his farms in Kentucky and New Jersey. Preakness is derived from the language of the Minisi Indian Nation of New Jersey: in thier language , "pra-qua-les" means "quality woods."

Older than the K Derby but it has not run continuously. Run at three different tracks (two in New York) it has been run at 7 distances from 1 mile to a mile 3/4.

Of note, and interesting running in 1947 became of undoing of a then, famous radio sports announcer, Clem McCarthy, as he wrongly called the winner on LIVE coast to coast radio. He was unable to get back up into his regular spot and had to call the race low in the grandstand where the field, from his point of view, disappeared behind infield garandstand seats, and he assumed the colt leading before they went behind it was the same coming out the other side. It was not: as Fautless was the winner over On Trust and the good one Phalanx.

in 1890, the race was open to 3 year olds and up. A 5 y/o Montague won that version as the only mature horse winner of the race.

Slowest Preakenss? CITATION (1948) 2:02 2/5 over a heavy track.

Only a single DQ (should have been two others: Codex and Sunday Silence) and that was Dancer's Image who ran 3rd but was DQ'd.

Track is speedier than the other two legs of the Triple Crown and the shortest distance of the three

Tim Y 05-20-2022 05:25 PM

Black Eyed Susan..
 
Very hard to beat the 10..

10 5 6 go out then 13 12 chase much later

Tim Y 05-20-2022 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Y (Post 145093)
Very hard to beat the 10..

10 5 6 go out then 13 12 chase much later

track has run early all card, so will have to just watch this one

Tim Y 05-20-2022 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Y (Post 145093)
Very hard to beat the 10..

10 5 6 go out then 13 12 chase much later

10 was a bit flat late, but got up to place, 5 was eased late, 12 ran 4th or 5th..o.o.f. 9 10 11 1

tom 05-20-2022 09:44 PM

I rem ember he said use the same 9 furlong lines for Derby and Preakness, but bet EP in one them and E in the Belmont? S in the Derby?

Am I close here?

barryt 05-21-2022 09:23 AM

Well S won the derby.. but there were a few to choose from..
Pretty sure that #8 will be EP in Preakness( unless #1 tries to wire them then 5&8 will be EP), but if smart #1 sits the P trip behind 3 pronged early pace horses 578..if the #1 is sent then the 9 may get the trip .
In the Belmont you have to check the DRF tomlinsons.
JMO
Ps EP #9 won the BES yesterday. #10 also sorta an EP 3 wide ran 2nd.

barryt 05-21-2022 09:36 AM

What does TANDEM say about 1&8:5&9.. Anyone.


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