Preakness - Belmont Final times
 

Answer to a question from a PM

Well, not really anything scientific here. These are the final times for the last 25 Runnings of the Preakness and Belmont 1992-2016

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Oops
 

Sorry the 2016 time is a misprint, Creator ran the final time for 2016 in 228.51

is there anything more telling of the mediocrity of American Pharoah than those two times? unbelievable.

Pharoah was a win machine that only did what he had to do against his competition. Good horses are like that. I believe it says more about that years crop than it does him.

Having been retired we'll never know.
Mitch44

Hat
 

QUOTE]Bill,

I was looking for the projected time Always dreaming will run the Preakness and the Belmont stakes based on his past times.[/QUOTE]


To you. I am sorry,

How can I tell? I have no past performances yet , When they come available, if I was smart enough I would use Hats method of projections,
I suggest you read Hats work ,
I believe you the procedure is , find horse to set the first two calls, then you determine the final time, But you need to do this
based on how they have run the distance in the past, when running against the pace you project, but how can you do this in the remaining 2 triple crown races? When nobody except the derby horses have run the distance ?
One could base it on the derby fractions but Howard Sartins main rule is never rate a horse off the derby pace line,
That is why I made the 25 race chart, The final time for both races
Is at the bottom , Its an average but , lets use Funny cide as a example
He was not a great horse coming in, He was 12/1 not great but not a long shot, He won the Preakness in 1minute 55 .3 seconds by 9 3/4 lengths
to me he represents how a decent Preakness winner should run on a fast track

Good Skill
Bill

Did you happen to look at his Belmont time if you like to go by times?

Final
 

2017 Preakness final time
Track fast but with lots of kickback

155.98