S/D - What does it mean?
 

What does S/D mean ? Search talks about San Diego and I am pretty sure that's not it.[ATTACH]37829

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Mesquitdavid, S/D stands for Surface and Distance

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say the magic word ....
 

If you happen to find a race were all the horses in the race have only run at Del Mar, Either on the dirt if its a dirt and turf if its a turf and no other track then the S/D could stand for the record at San Diego :D

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37 more day's but who is counting!!:D

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In my opinion the way RDSS2 displays S/D numbers is confusing. If today's race is a 6f dirt sprint, then the S/D numbers represent ALL dirt sprints that the horse has run. This would include 5f, 5.5f, 6f, 6.5f, 7f and 7.5f dirt races. Maybe the horse isn't competitive in races less than 6f, but he is competitive in 6f races. If the horse has more than 10 races, then some of the results are hidden and we don't know if they were 5f or maybe 7.5f races. I have looked at the TrackMaster pps and they seem to display the Correct information. Maybe Ted could explain why RDSS2 handles S/D the way it does.

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I should have started the last message by saying that DRF, Brisnet, and TrackMaster define S/D to be about the distance and surface of today's race. Meaning that if today's race is a 6f dirt sprint, then the S/D numbers should only include all of the 6f dirt races that the horse has run, not any other distance or surface. Sorry I didn't include that.

I think RDSS' interpretation of S/D groups all Routes together and all sprints together.

IE: S/D on for a 6f race in RDSS on turf would include all turf sprints, regardless of 5f-7f. That's just what I've noticed.

The numbers in the 'Stats' box are precisely what I get in the data file from TrackMaster. S/D relates to the distance grouping of today's race - all sprints or all routes for today's surface. Plus - re today's surface, if it is NOT Turf (i.e. dirt or flavour of Poly / All-weather) all dirt and Poly stats are grouped together.

I agree it is not as detailed as it could be. Also, it does not agree completely with newer TrackMaster data file contents, as displayed in some TrackMaster products (which is broken out more fine-grained).

One of numerous data-file upgrades which are possible. I can ask about upgrading this data in our RDSS data file, for a future software update.

Meanwhile, while not being indelicate, to see what a horse has been able to do in its past 10 efforts - well, we have the glorious details in the running lines. Older than that - can you rely on whether the info is still relevant, or reproducible today (e.g. once upon a time, won or placed in a race near today's distance at today's track, while not having done so recently or been entered by connections to do so recently ...)? Just asking.

Ted

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Thanks for your input Ted. I was just curious why the TrackMaster Past Performances showed S/D numbers differently than RDSS. Not a big deal.

We have talked about this before in person, but i would like all the horses pacelines over it’s career. For starters, knowing what the horses ceiling is, and it’s low points year by year can be very informative. Knowing if a horse is regressing as it ages, or if an injury has taken a step away from the horse can be useful. Knowing if a particular surface/distance was attempted and how the horse faired on said surface/distance can be very useful. There have been times when i have looked at the S/D and it shows 1 attempt similar to today’s race, but it doesn’t tell me what actually happened in said race. It might not be very useful when looking at recency, and the last ten lines are probably all you need, but there have been times i wish i had the running lines from that particular race. As well, some horses run more than ten times a year, and having all the pacelines is important to me when looking at form cycles.

Not that i plan on moving over to the dark side, but TimeFormUS offers all the horses pacelines over it’s career, and seeing that it’s one of your competitors....... i don’t have to explain the rest. I know you have a lot on your plate and you get a million requests, but one thing i really like about TFUS is the fact that they offer a breeding rating for each horse, and this is paramount for me when dealing with FTS, and seeing that i play Woodbine, i have to deal with a ton of firsters. Food for thought.....

Gil,

Getting all of a horse's PPs is probably fairly doable (in terms of a request from TrackMaster). I need to gang up all the requests to change/add to the existing data file into a SINGLE request to them for 2015. It is possible that some of the requests for new data points (trainer/jockey stats, breeding ratings, etc) may cost more per card - but I don't know and have not talked to them about it.

I will start a thread shortly to solicit RDSS users' ideas of additional data items in the TrackMaster data file, and post a link here.

Ted

I gave it some thought, and it might be a little much to include the lifetime running lines of a horse as far as the size of the data file. Maybe a consensus from the RDSS users might be in order, some people might not want huge files stored in their database, i don't know.

I think the last two years would be good enough for me, but it would be kind of cool to have the history of a horse on file.

Maybe a poll is in order on this subject.

I don't mind paying more for the cards, it would save me a ton of time digging threw Statsmaster and Equibase for the trainer/breeding stats and whatever.

A thread on the topic is a good idea.

p.s. Why is it we can never get the call times on Euro horses? After looking at Sundays Woodbine card, i am left shaking my head in frustration.