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pktruckdriver 10-01-2012 08:54 PM

Pktruckdriver Octubre Selecciones
 
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pktruckdriver 10-03-2012 02:56 PM

Belmont Race 5 , MS 6f dirt
 
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Trying to start with a nice hit, but this 2 horse is 6/5 and not willing to play 100 to win on him , I will try the 4 and 8 horse with 50.00 to win

Ted Craven 10-03-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pktruckdriver (Post 84599)
Trying to start with a nice hit, but this 2 horse is 6/5 and not willing to play 100 to win on him , I will try the 4 and 8 horse with 50.00 to win

I understand your rationale for skipping the #2.

What was your rationale for not betting the next 2 nicely priced horses in your Top 3 BLBL?

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Ted

pktruckdriver 10-03-2012 04:22 PM

Belmont Race 5 , MS 6f dirt results/explantaion
 
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You mean the winner, the 7 horse, I know, but the reasoning is the segemant screen for the 4 horse, tied for 1st, 8 horse was 2nd , 3 out of 4 times, so value wise I choose them, yet right on the BL/BL top 3 was the winner, like your Mom has stated many times the 3rd Tier produces many winners.

I have found many prices using Segments Screen, but had also seen the workout on the 7 and almost choose him, but sometimes, you choose wrong.

Practice and knowing the track will help, as today was Muddy, a No No to begin with, but I thought the 2 might be vulnerable and that part of my handicapping was right, just getting the winner was not, this time...

pktruckdriver 10-08-2012 03:35 PM

Woodbine race 6 10/8
 
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OKAY, Caps off, well I am going with the the top 2 in BL/BL, leaving the current favorite the 7 horse , who is in 3 tier out for now, at 5/2 20 minutes to post, and the 4 and 6 are 25/1 and 5/1 , either would give me a blue star race, and I do need a few of them this month, as I am in this to do well and teach everyone, how to see what I do and do the opposite, just kidding if you're reading this still, and my Pacelines is best of last 3 comparable and Woodbine has been running long enough to get enough comparable lines


So at 15 MINUTES TO POST

50 WIN ON 2 HORSE'S

#4 20/1

#6 6/1


* Cover bet , 7/3,4,6, Key box exacta

This is aa 2yr old race and I should stay out, but RDSS has been doing ok with these, so trust the program

pktruckdriver 10-08-2012 03:51 PM

WOODBINE RACE 6 10/8 Results
 
I lost again, no blue star, my 6 went down to 7/2, so maybe even if he won I may have missed a blue star, thou the 6 was 2nd, I played him to win. The 9 won at 13/1 and the 7 was 3rd, at even money, oh well...

Looks like I am down 200.00 to 1,800.00 , not going good yet, but I am not worried a winning streak worthy of me will be coming soon!!! ;)

pktruckdriver 10-08-2012 04:45 PM

Woodbine Race 8 10/8
 
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Again , 2 yr olds, but again the program is giving a little value, if the 4 horse gets beat

50 win on 1 and 2

pktruckdriver 10-08-2012 04:54 PM

Woodbine Race 8 10/8 Result
 
Lost again, 2yr olds are not good today, and I quit trusting the program, it had the 5 no where near being a winner, a big one at that, blew them away, just like my chances this month

300 lost 1700 balance

Bill V. 10-08-2012 05:44 PM

asking
 
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hello Patrick

I was wondering if you were asking too much of the 2 horse
I see no reason not to use the last line on this horse
The 4.5 ms statebred was nice and all but with only a 42 APV
and the poor effort in line 2 I feel line 1 would be more in line with this horses
ability

Not redboading because I did not bet this race
and I only looked at it after I knew the results

But I used phase 1 and for my contenders
and I get the winner in pretty good shape
ranked third

Not saying I'm right and your wrong
I just am going with what Doc often writes about
How 1 off pace line can alter the other contenders in
You have the winner ranked 4th but I question the 2 horse

Your comments ?

Thanks
Bill
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pktruckdriver 10-08-2012 07:07 PM

Santa ANita Race 7
 
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50 win 4 and 7

Trying to beat the 2 horse, not sure but will try

pktruckdriver 10-08-2012 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 84727)
hello Patrick

I was wondering if you were asking too much of the 2 horse
I see no reason not to use the last line on this horse
The 4.5 ms statebred was nice and all but with only a 42 APV
and the poor effort in line 2 I feel line 1 would be more in line with this horses
ability

Not redboading because I did not bet this race
and I only looked at it after I knew the results

But I used phase 1 and for my contenders
and I get the winner in pretty good shape
ranked third

Not saying I'm right and your wrong
I just am going with what Doc often writes about
How 1 off pace line can alter the other contenders in
You have the winner ranked 4th but I question the 2 horse

Your comments ?

Thanks
Bill
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Hello Bill, great question, let me look and I may have had that one slide through , but actually it was within the last 180 days at this track, and a sprint, though 4.5 is a very short sprint, it was indictive of possible improvement , being 2 yrs old, look for the best line and think of possible improvent, these are 2yr olds , not 4-6yrs old, and they normally can improve a bit every other race, if on the upside, if not then you lose like I did today.

These critters are fickle and hard to pick the right side of their zig or zag, are going to improve or hit the wall, today I saw it boths ways and I guessed wrong both times. Oh well, lose and be happy.


Patrick

pktruckdriver 10-08-2012 07:23 PM

Santa ANita Race 7 results
 
The 2 horse did beat me, and the 7 was 2nd , again, going for value has beat me again, this is enough to send a guy into a tail spin, if it was anyone other than me, for me I have a couple of 40.00 horses coming soon, no problem, wait and learn, lol.


400 lost, balance 1600 :confused:

getting time to win,
Patrick

pktruckdriver 10-08-2012 07:38 PM

Santa ANita Race 8
 
Wow this is way out there, but the few horse picked by RDSS have some value again, tough to get beat so often in 1 day, so here goes again


50 win 12 and 2

patrick

Late scratch and 2 went up in odds, try this on for size

pktruckdriver 10-08-2012 07:46 PM

Santa ANita Race 8 results
 
lost again :p


500 lost 1500 balance


patrick

pktruckdriver 10-09-2012 01:13 PM

Parx race 3
 
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50 win 7 and 6

The 6 is capable of a win here at a price, and jockey change may mean they want a win this time, it also has had recent SR to win here, the 7 has dual races wwith high SR in this class level, and should be a great price , if it holds.

The 1 horse has not shown he could run this fast, 4 and 5 also have much lower SR than these 2 , but the 3 horse is possible here, and I may use the 3 over my 2 in an exacta, we'll see.

pktruckdriver 10-09-2012 01:28 PM

Parx race 3 results
 
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My horse dropped last minute and in the gate, and to think I had my 1st Blue Starr winner, oh well, a winner and that will help.

pktruckdriver 10-09-2012 01:52 PM

Parx race 4
 
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100 on 6 horse to win

Sometime the numbers point to it, and this it does, if he can do what he did last out she wins easily so hopefully , the 2 horse will not improve too much, lol

Bill V. 10-09-2012 01:56 PM

roll
 
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Originally Posted by pktruckdriver (Post 84747)
My horse dropped last minute and in the gate, and to think I had my 1st Blue Starr winner, oh well, a winner and that will help.

Nice work Patrick
No blue star but a very good pre race work upand win price on a $50 bet
Now get on a winning road

GS
Bill

pktruckdriver 10-09-2012 01:59 PM

Parx race 4 RESULTS/Decision neede as I was too late posting
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pktruckdriver (Post 84750)
100 on 6 horse to win

Sometime the numbers point to it, and this it does, if he can do what he did last out she wins easily so hopefully , the 2 horse will not improve too much, lol

I did not get the winner, the 2 horse did win but I am sure I posted after the race was off, ( not paying attention), so if I did hit it , it would have been dis-allowed, so I guess this would still be a loss, as I know I had the wrong horse


Patrick

pktruckdriver 10-09-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by pktruckdriver (Post 84752)
I did not get the winner, the 2 horse did win but I am sure I posted after the race was off, ( not paying attention), so if I did hit it , it would have been dis-allowed, so I guess this would still be a loss, as I know I had the wrong horse


Patrick

Look like the post time for the race was 1:48, 4 minutes past my post.

Bill V. 10-09-2012 02:32 PM

no bet
 
Off time was 1.48
Patrick this is a non starter/
No bet

GS
Bill

pktruckdriver 10-09-2012 03:22 PM

Parx Race 8
 
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Okay this is a race where you hope for a bounce, and since this is not NYRA or Socal, then maybe we can get a bounce, as the 7's last race had 104 SR, a for sure if any where near that race again, so I hope not, and if right then maybe my 1st Blue Star winner

50 win 9 and 6

pktruckdriver 10-09-2012 03:51 PM

Parx Race 8 Results
 
I am ashamed, just a bit, at how bad I was this race, my 2 horse's may have been dead last, they were that bad. The 7 won and paid 3.60, not too much.


Patrick

pktruckdriver 10-13-2012 03:30 PM

Belmont Race 6
 
50 win bet 7 and 8


couldn't get sceen shot in

pktruckdriver 10-16-2012 07:58 PM

Hoosier Race 7 10/16
 
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Hoosier , nevr bet here , so let me trust my P/L that I chose and see what RDSS gives me.

At 5MTP I will play 50 win 1 and 5

hope the 1 does not go down, and hidng the 7 because of track, hope I am right, buut still no Blue Star this race

pktruckdriver 10-16-2012 08:05 PM

Hoosier Race 7 10/16 results
 
lost

pktruckdriver 10-16-2012 08:17 PM

Hoosier Race 8 10/16
 
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How could the 9 horse not be a play here


Let me go out on to the ledge of letting my inner gut pick one, and it tells me to bet it all on the 9 horse, if you look at 2nd line you see he won by 26 lengths, how many horses do this, here it is

50 win/place on 9 horse

Notice how I settled back into my comfort zone of wagering and I do a w/p bet, if I did this place wager last race I would have had my blue star horse, at 9.60 to place, just a thought.

Ted Craven 10-16-2012 08:26 PM

Hoosier Race 7
 
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Patrick,

We used the same pacelines. Would you consider further sorting your horses into Win contender today versus not-for-Win contender today, say based on recent performance, forgiving 1 race after a significant layoff for the #8, but not 2 bad races for the #5 or #7 and discounting Turf only recent proficiency for the #2.

Here's what I got (before checking results - I did not bet it):

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pktruckdriver 10-16-2012 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ted Craven (Post 84904)
Patrick,

We used the same pacelines. Would you consider further sorting your horses into Win contender today versus not-for-Win contender today, say based on recent performance, forgiving 1 race after a significant layoff for the #8, but not 2 bad races for the #5 or #7 and discounting Turf only recent proficiency for the #2.

Here's what I got (before checking results - I did not bet it):

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Ted I am thinking about this and was wondering to myuself before this race was run if I should have bet my plays as place wagers due to the higher odds, why because I truly felt that my picks were more likely place wagers, or a 2nd and 3rd place horse, ortherwise filling in the exotics.

I notice that when you make your screen shots you have it split into contenders and non-contenders, which basically means who can win and who will not , I don't do that , I hide non-contenders instead of keeping them on screen.

Should reconsider this?

pktruckdriver 10-16-2012 08:46 PM

Hoosier Race 8 10/16 results
 
Lost Again

pktruckdriver 10-16-2012 08:51 PM

Hoosier Race 9 10/16
 
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looking this time to wager 50 win on 1/1a and 8 horse

Bill V. 10-16-2012 08:56 PM

Look at Teds lines
 
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Hi Patrick

I think for you using the split screen would be the way to go

Look at Teds lines for his win contenders

all 8.0 dirt lines except for the 4 horse , and its rated 4th
It sure makes it a neat clear packaged right ?

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The first thing I noticed about your race was the
wide spread in surface and distance and tracks of your pacelines

When I went through each horse to pick my lines I decided to pass
after horse 4 too many issues for 1 race IMO

all in all you just missed your horses ran 2nd and 3rd
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pktruckdriver 10-16-2012 09:06 PM

Hoosier Race 9 10/16 results
 
Lost, I was 2nd and 3rd again

pktruckdriver 10-16-2012 09:16 PM

Thanks Bill and Ted, I thought we had the same lines, but maybe Hoo is too toguh for me, as it just did 3 races and lost them all, yes I was close, I think all my bets were very thought out, and all had a chance to win and givee me a hit for this cycle, but I am now 1 for 11 I think, which is horrible, but is hitting last 9 races out, no of course I can do that and still make money this cycle, yet Belmont and Mtr are normally tracks I play this time of year, and SA and Kee/CD as back ups, but I have been trying new tracks and with some tracks beeing too tough for me, and it kind of confirms sticking to tracks I know and like, as RDSS does best there for me. Like tonight , I was 0-3, pretty bad, but not discouraging.

pktruckdriver 10-17-2012 12:42 PM

suffolk race 1 10/17
 
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50 win on 2 and 4, hiding the 5 horse, and

pktruckdriver 10-17-2012 12:55 PM

suffolk race 1 10/17 Results
 
Lost badly

pktruckdriver 10-17-2012 12:59 PM

Keenland Race 1 10/17
 
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Looking to win bet 50 on 1 and 11 as they seem to be live plays

pktruckdriver 10-17-2012 01:10 PM

Keenland Race 1 10/17 results
 
Lost , 3rd again what a losing streak this is, but it is not affecting my picks, they will continue

Bill V. 10-17-2012 02:17 PM

Race 1 What you saw
 
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Originally Posted by pktruckdriver (Post 84920)
Lost badly

Hello Patrick

You missed this race. The winner # 1 did not show
much more than this horse . but I have 2 questions

First what was it that you liked about this horse enough to
bet $50 to win?
Secondly, a few post back you said trust RDSS and the readouts
in that case would you say its highly unusual for a sprinter
to over come being 2O BL back at the first call?
look at the segments readouts
Does anybody track how far back at the 1st call their winners come from
in 6.0 sprints ?

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pktruckdriver 10-17-2012 02:27 PM

Keenland Race 4 10/17
 
50 win 4 and 12

screens later


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