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Bill V. 04-03-2011 09:59 AM

Match Oaklawn Park Race 8 4/3/11
 
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Here is a 5.5 sprint with few Early runners, looks like a good betting race
Post time is around 4.40

40K claimers

Here are the PP's

Hope you can join in

Thanks
Bill V.
St.Lucie FL

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Bill V. 04-03-2011 10:02 AM

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3 4 5

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Bill V. 04-03-2011 10:04 AM

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6 7 8

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Bill V. 04-03-2011 10:06 AM

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9 and 10


Good Skill to all

Bill

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Bill V. 04-03-2011 10:45 AM

Match
 
Tandems
#1 Mister Minister/#10 Southern Vintage
3mar OP 6.0 22.5 45.6 57.7 110.3
#2 #10 Southern Vintage/#5 Perfect Drive
18Mar OP 6.0 21.7 45.1 57.7 110.3

Projected Pace and FPLR
21.7 45.1 57.7 104.1 Horse 10 Southern Vintage Line 1
adjusted to 5.5

Running Styles

H1 Mister Minister E/P 22.5 45.6
H2 Mutti Blues EARLY 21.8 44.3 long layoff from PRM
H3 Bizet E/P 22.1 44.6 Long layoff RP
H4 Lone Star Cowboy E/P 22.2 45.6 not much since layoff
H5 Perfect Drive EARLY 21.7 45.1
H6 Cainam EP 22.2 45.9 Line 6 at 5.5 PRM
H7 Bergman S/P Line 4 21.9 44.8 DEL
H8 Blushing Romeo EARLY 22.0 45.6
H9 Posse Cat SUS Line 3
H10 Southern Vintage Multi Early and S/P
outside position today line 1 and 2

APV CLASS

H1 65 1.77
H2 89 3.39
H3 74 2.09
H4 21 .70
H5 62 1.48
H6 139 3.90
H7 74 1.85
H8 67 1.06
H9 89 1.84
H10 70 2.07

5 and the 8 are EARLY Energy Runners
the 5 has much better total energy out goes the 8
and line 2 for the 5

Matching lines for the 10 line 2 has the better numbers
out goes line 1

Horse 1 and 9 are too slow even with adjustments
out

I have lines for PRM CBY DEL and OP so for all
further readouts I will use the 2 adjust
because Im not up on track to track speed ratings


The 2 should be ahead of the 5 at the MP point

at this point the 3 shows nothing more than early traffic
out

I see the race as OTE. A close finish
but I will go with the 7 and 10
7 10 6 2

GS
Bill V.
Dennys

khannamark 04-03-2011 12:34 PM

oaklawn 8th
 
Hi,this is my first posting in a long time.

I see this race going early to the 5 or 10.

The 5 should win, since he will be further ahead early

PeteC 04-03-2011 01:12 PM

Good morning Bill…

This is a tricky one…Not sure who is going to make the lead today. There are many E/P types. There are also multiple tracks to consider. These are not tracks that I’m as confident about how they relate when matching raw. Hopefully your 2 adjust will take care of that.

So…I’ve narrowed it down to the 5 and 10. I prefer the 10, showing last time it can run on well from a little further off the pace.

Have a good one…

Ted Craven 04-03-2011 04:01 PM

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In the Win position, I would favour the #10 and the #7.

Good luck Bill, Pete, Mark! And Mark - nice to hear from you again (Springtime in Ontario again, eh!?)

Ted

delmarscott2004 04-03-2011 04:18 PM

Oakland Park , Race #8 . 04.03.11
 
Race #8 ............ 9 and 10

9/10/7 exotics

Scott

Bill V. 04-03-2011 05:03 PM

Into race 7
 
No scratches track is fast for Race 8 :)

PeteC 04-03-2011 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by delmarscott2004 (Post 70261)
Race #8 ............ 9 and 10

9/10/7 exotics

Scott

well done...win and exacta!

Bill V. 04-03-2011 06:44 PM

9 10
 
What a great race. We all had the 10 in some way but we have one nice winner
With the. 9 at 7/1. Nice work. Win and Ex Thanks everyone for joining in. I will post the result card shortly. Gs. Bill

Bill V. 04-04-2011 01:04 AM

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Result chart

The 10 could not hold on at the shorter 5.5 Distance
the 9 wins in a photo

pace of race was a fast 21.4 45.3 104.1

the Early eight set the tone

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khannamark 04-04-2011 12:38 PM

thanks
 
thanks for the "welcome back" Ted.
I think I should introduce myself to those who are interested.
My interest in the matchup started many years ago when the Hat and doc came to woodbine for a seminar.I was trained by the Parente brothers who generously shared their knowledge with a small group of handicappers at woodbine many years ago.
After spending years on Beyers, biases, trainer angles etc I commited to the visual matchup and have been studying it ever since.
I am convinced that it is the only approach that satisfactorily describes the behaviour of the herd that is a race. It is a source of great delight to me when horses fool the human centred pundits who pick by jockeys and trainers.
In any case the matchup is the only approach that has not been adopted by the mainstream and is the only game in town for those looking foor a legitimate edge.
In my experience doing the matchup is challenging. At the track I am surrounded by mainstream handicappers, and feel like the boat in a yacht race who has tacked when everyone else has jibed. I am alone seeking the wind, and hoping to arrive first at the finish line. That 4/5 favourite whose name is reverently shouted by all gets under my skin...even though my own stats show a good profit frommatchup based betting against odds on favs.

Thank you for the matchers forum, it feels like I have come to a good place. My congratulations to all of you for your attitude of mutual respect and sharing,
Mark K

Ted Craven 04-04-2011 01:22 PM

Mark,

That seminar at Woodbine in 1992 was also my first live introduction to Doc, Hat, Brohamer et al. I still have my "Class of '92" pin!

Glad to have you here, and looking forward to more your matching talents.

yours,

Ted


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