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SilentRun 09-25-2010 12:55 PM

Parx r9 09-25
 
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I am on Philly..excuse me PARX. The 9th race is on the turf @ 8.5F.
I would like to put this race on the table for anyone who wishes to participate.
Group input/insight is welcome. As far as picking pacelines are concerned according to M. Pizzolla it is acceptable to go WAY BACK for the best line.
This concept makes it harder for me to pick the best comparable line. So I am weak with turf routes.

I always work from the adjusted lines but if anyone wished the unadjusted lines I will gladly put them out.
Group synergism can get the winner.

Ernie

clore1030 09-25-2010 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentRun (Post 68729)
I am on Philly..excuse me PARX.

Do you have any idea of how long it took me to stop calling the place Keystone?

Good luck.

SilentRun 09-25-2010 01:11 PM

PARX r9 con'd
 
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NEXT 5 pp's

SilentRun 09-25-2010 01:15 PM

PARX con'd
 
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last 2 pp's OPPS I displayed #10 twice.

SilentRun 09-25-2010 01:38 PM

R9 - best 5
 
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Here is my top 5.....I generally went for the pacelines with the best SR's
I wasn't sure about #8 so I went with a more recent lower PL.

Ernie

SilentRun 09-25-2010 03:46 PM

I haven't done much at the PARX 6/7 Chalk. But in the the 8th race I like
the #8 and #12. The 9 is another contender. At least the odds are ok with
8 MTP. I'll probably BTW 8 and 12 if odds hold.

12-9-8 and now an objection against the 12.

Ernie

SilentRun 09-25-2010 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentRun (Post 68736)
I haven't done much at the PARX 6/7 Chalk. But in the the 8th race I like
the #8 and #12. The 9 is another contender. At least the odds are ok with
8 MTP. I'll probably BTW 8 and 12 if odds hold.

12-9-8 and now an objection against the 12.

Ernie

Results hold I BTW the 8 and 12 and had the exacta.
My decision model put me on this one.

Ernie

Rverge 09-25-2010 04:24 PM

nice hit ernie

SilentRun 09-25-2010 04:26 PM

Now the 9th race.....The 3 is chalk but I revisited the 8 horse and I upgraded him to his best SR. I will aslo go with the #10 and 11...nice odds, I really should pass this race because I am unsure but what the heck.
Betting 3 horses is a sign of insecurity.

Ernie

Rverge 09-25-2010 04:26 PM

i went w/ the 11

was looking at the 2

Rverge 09-25-2010 04:36 PM

oh well the 3 @ 6/5 " " shrug " "
ps wow! just saw a BIG SCREEN ph..eeerrrr PARX! now there up w/ the big boys

Rverge 09-25-2010 04:38 PM

OUCH!! THE 11 FINISHES 2ND oh savor bet oh savor bet where ar"t thou:-(

SilentRun 09-25-2010 04:40 PM

The favorite (3) won and 11 horse placed, 8 showed. At least my picks were in the ballpark. But overall I don't do well with Turf routes. That's it for me today I am packing it in while I am ahead.

Ernie

Bill V. 09-25-2010 06:10 PM

Nice work Ernie
Sorry I could not join you I am on the road just took a break and saw your perfect $10 + winner Your line selection and betting are excellent
hey the three chalk is just a miss

Yesterday you posted about the speed ratings and how the perceptor lines sometimes
out perform the speed ratings
This is very common The Follow Up is full of examples of the F6 or now the Perceptor
rating lines you would think are better or have a higher Speed Rating
Its Doc's guidelines to go by the Speed rating as a guage to pick lines within a
small range ( about 3 points ) within what the favorites speed rating is
But the F6 and Now Perceptor total linescore rules

Doc never said take the top 5 speed ratings or Total energy. He did show how the top 5 Total energy horses
won for his testers When they follow his guidelines get the winner 90 % of the time in the top 5 Again Nice work

SilentRun 09-25-2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 68745)
Nice work Ernie
Sorry I could not join you I am on the road just took a break and saw your perfect $10 + winner Your line selection and betting are excellent
hey the three chalk is just a miss

Yesterday you posted about the speed ratings and how the perceptor lines sometimes
out perform the speed ratings
This is very common The Follow Up is full of examples of the F6 or now the Perceptor
rating lines you would think are better or have a higher Speed Rating
Its Doc's guidelines to go by the Speed rating as a guage to pick lines within a
small range ( about 3 points ) within what the favorites speed rating is
But the F6 and Now Perceptor total linescore rules

Doc never said take the top 5 speed ratings or Total energy. He did show how the top 5 Total energy horses
won for his testers When they follow his guidelines get the winner 90 % of the time in the top 5 Again Nice work

Thanks,,,but it wasn't me that posted about how the perceptor lines sometimes
outperform the speed ratings.

Ernie

Bill V. 09-25-2010 08:46 PM

right or wrong
 
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Originally Posted by SilentRun (Post 68746)
Thanks,,,but it wasn't me that posted about how the perceptor lines sometimes
outperform the speed ratings.

Ernie


Sorry Looks like Ted and I both have you and Clore mixed up
http://paceandcap.com/forums/showpos...5&postcount=21

For The Lead 09-26-2010 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentRun (Post 68734)
Here is my top 5.....I generally went for the pacelines with the best SR's
I wasn't sure about #8 so I went with a more recent lower PL.

Ernie

When I put up some TRACK PROFILES I did not include any "turf" races since there were so few of them. At this point in time, including 9.25.10, there are a total of 14 turf races at distances of 8 furlongs or further since 8.30.10.

Here's what the # entries and first two calls look like, position-beaten lengths.
(ENT) 10 (Call1-POS/BL) 6/3.75 (Call2-POS/BL) 4.7/2.7

Now these are averages of all the races regardless of age,sex or anything else. But it does give you an idea of where winners are positioned and how far back they are at the first and second calls.

In addition to the above averages, only one winner was as close as 3rd at the first call and another 4 were as close as 4th at the first call.

Finally, only 1 winner had the lead at the second call and just 2 winners were as close as 2nd at the second call.

These pieces of information give you a very good idea of how a horse has to run in order to win these route races on the turf at PHA (PARX).

SilentRun 09-26-2010 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by For The Lead (Post 68751)
When I put up some TRACK PROFILES I did not include any "turf" races since there were so few of them. At this point in time, including 9.25.10, there are a total of 14 turf races at distances of 8 furlongs or further since 8.30.10.

Here's what the # entries and first two calls look like, position-beaten lengths.
(ENT) 10 (Call1-POS/BL) 6/3.75 (Call2-POS/BL) 4.7/2.7

Now these are averages of all the races regardless of age,sex or anything else. But it does give you an idea of where winners are positioned and how far back they are at the first and second calls.

In addition to the above averages, only one winner was as close as 3rd at the first call and another 4 were as close as 4th at the first call.

Finally, only 1 winner had the lead at the second call and just 2 winners were as close as 2nd at the second call.

These pieces of information give you a very good idea of how a horse has to run in order to win these route races on the turf at PHA (PARX).

Thank You.............any data is better than nothing.

Ernie

Bill V. 09-26-2010 09:07 AM

Energy Parameters
 
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Originally Posted by SilentRun (Post 68752)
Thank You.............any data is better than nothing.

Ernie





Hi Ernie For The Lead is so correct, there just is not enough data for turf races
at Parx they are running so few of them and many are sprints including
7.5 furlongs with no fractions

Here is your race added to my SARTIN ENERGY PARAMETERS Worksheet


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