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partsnut 04-05-2009 09:49 AM

Using PaceAppraiser - Keenland Challenge Contest
 
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I recently entered the Keenland Challenge Contest which is a 23 day handicapping marathon. I am using PaceAppraiser. In the first 2 days I'm at 37.5% single pick winners. Here was my play in yesterdays 10th race.

I realize that everyone has there own preferences as to what they choose to use. It's all good. Use what works for you. PaceAppraiser works for me.

JimG 04-05-2009 10:03 AM

Nice hit Bill. Glad you found something that works well for you. It is important to have confidence in the tool you use to assist you in finding good plays. Continued success.

Jim

shoeless 04-05-2009 10:38 AM

Bill,Good job and I commend you for learning how to use the program,I tried but find difficulty in doing so.Jeff

partsnut 04-05-2009 11:49 AM

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Nice hit Bill. Glad you found something that works well for you. It is important to have confidence in the tool you use to assist you in finding good plays. Continued success.

Jim, it's nice top hear from you. Thank you for the good wishes. I wish you the same and the very best.
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Bill,Good job and I commend you for learning how to use the program,I tried but find difficulty in doing so
.Jeff

Thank you for the commendation. Actually, Randy Giles makes it quite simple with his analysis and course he gives at no cost to the user. However, there are those that can't get used to a new method or concept that adheres to a "clear ones mind of the old" policy and let in the new. This is a start at the beginning and learn policy. Some people are not open to this school of thought and I have no fault with that. What works for me may not work for you. Actually, it's very simplistic.

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shoeless 04-05-2009 03:45 PM

Bill,That's ok I will stick to my old ways of using TPR numbers and trainer intent it enables me to hit some exotics.

partsnut 04-05-2009 04:36 PM

Another Nice Winner Using PaceAppaiser
 
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Bill,That's ok I will stick to my old ways of using TPR numbers and trainer intent it enables me to hit some exotics
Jeff, TPR is a great indicator when used properly. If it works for you, stay with it.
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Here's another Nice Winner Using PaceAppraiser in todays Keenland Contest.:)





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For The Lead 04-06-2009 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by partsnut (Post 51818)
I recently entered the Keenland Challenge Contest which is a 23 day handicapping marathon. I am using PaceAppraiser. In the first 2 days I'm at 37.5% single pick winners. Here was my play in yesterdays 10th race.

I realize that everyone has there own preferences as to what they choose to use. It's all good. Use what works for you. PaceAppraiser works for me.

First I want to congratulate you on a nice win in that 10th race at KEE.

You do, however, have me a bit confused.
First, I am assuming that the highlighted line is the line you chose. If I am correct, why did you use that line? There is only one line on the page where this horse ever made up as much as an inch of ground in the stretch and that is the line you used. A review of the horses past performances clearly show that this horses style is "early". I have been under the impression that the idea was to get horses in on a line that represents their running style. When I looked at the chart of the race, this horse did, in fact, win going wire to wire. Could you help me out here?

partsnut 04-06-2009 06:22 AM

For The Lead:
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First I want to congratulate you on a nice win in that 10th race at KEE.

You do, however, have me a bit confused.
First, I am assuming that the highlighted line is the line you chose. If I am correct, why did you use that line? There is only one line on the page where this horse ever made up as much as an inch of ground in the stretch and that is the line you used. A review of the horses past performances clearly show that this horses style is "early". I have been under the impression that the idea was to get horses in on a line that represents their running style. When I looked at the chart of the race, this horse did, in fact, win going wire to wire. Could you help me out here?
Thanks.
I found only 2 usable lines (contenders) that conformed to the method.
The winner and my choice was an early presser. The race set up for early. Meadow Saffron exhibited flexibility in his running style and with the inside post, it indicated to me that this horse might go for the lead, which he did. He also came off a XO pattern (bad race, good race) and had the top speed rating in his qualfying race.

partsnut 04-06-2009 12:48 PM

It is my opinion that handicapping software in many cases will fall short of projecting a winner because for the most part, does not have the ability to single out relevant spot or angle plays. There are some notable exceptions: JCapper, NetCapper, Synergism6, PowerOnLine, Black Magic and possibly All In One may be the exceptions.
Most of these programs require a sizeable investment for either the software or for data or both and excludes the casual player.
Additionally, Taulbot has an excellent method that I feel is noteworthy.

My preference, as you all know, is PaceAppraiser. The reason being, it has proven itself over and over again. It is inexpensive. It is not a predictor, it's a proven method. It makes you the the Handicapper and not the software and causes one to use another tool, your brain, which many of us are guilty of not using or don't have one to begin with. :) No offense intended to anyone.

If you are lazy and don't want do the work, you will never be a winner.
There's no magic bullet or quick fix.

Tim Y 04-06-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by partsnut (Post 51864)
It is not a predictor, it's a proven method. It makes you the the Handicapper and not the software and causes one to use another tool, your brain, which many of us are guilty of not using or don't have one to begin with. :) No offense intended to anyone.

If you are lazy and don't want do the work, you will never be a winner.
There's no magic bullet or quick fix.

same with these programs as well

partsnut 04-06-2009 04:44 PM

Hi Tim,

I am not disputing you. You could very well be right.

I can only go by what I've read and been told.
It would be hard for me to believe that I've been mislead and lied to by others. :) We all know that horseplayers never lie or stretch the truth.:D
If I thought otherwise, I might lose faith in the human race. :rolleyes:

thedodge 12-09-2009 04:15 PM

Old Sartin client
 
Furthest Land wins n1x,n2x,n3x back to back to back if that's not a stakes profile i don't know what is. I'am an old sartin client 1985 i had a sharp handheld with a 4 inch printer it was so cool and simple. Got to this site looking for some new sartin stuff, yet it seemed like over kill to me. Noticed your post and bought "extreme Pace Handicapping" and signed up. It would be nice if we had our own forum.
Ron Dodgen

Bill V. 12-09-2009 06:05 PM

Parts
 
Hi Bill H (partsnut) is not a member of Pace and Cap

He asked me to let you know he saw your post

I believe you can reach him on Paceadvantage.com PM

Good Skill

Bill V.


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