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mikesal57 03-31-2009 12:10 PM

3/31
 
hello all..

phil 1ST...#1

raceman5 03-31-2009 12:13 PM

Tampa
 
double 7-10-4/3-4-1

Bob

JLG 03-31-2009 12:36 PM

Tampa 1st. 7,10 can't bet the 10 at 3/5 so 7 it is.

mikesal57 03-31-2009 12:42 PM

Phil 2nd
 
4 & 2

mikesal57 03-31-2009 12:45 PM

Tam 2nd
 
#7 win

Tim Y 03-31-2009 12:47 PM

hard to beat :4: in the philly 2nd on a better day :3: and :5: might come late

Tim Y 03-31-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 51445)
4 & 2

you didn't use the line from over 900 days ago?

Those are the only lines that would make this OBVIOUSLY injured and recuperated horse a contender........Only a few works...this one is telling you damaged GOODS Smarty Nicole....wow that is far fetched.

Tim Y 03-31-2009 12:54 PM

5/9/3 philly 2nd

JLG 03-31-2009 12:55 PM

Jockey on the 4 was terrible when in so cal, terrible still in philly, don't care what his wining % is.

Tim Y 03-31-2009 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLG (Post 51450)
Jockey on the 4 was terrible when in so cal, terrible still in philly, don't care what his wining % is.

They all throw in a clinker. Often saw McCarron, as good as he was, go to sleep. Worst was in Alysheba's Belmont as Pincay suckered him into going around him (on Crytoclearance) in order to catch Bet Twice who was really long gone, JUST about the time he took off so it was a wasted effort. Heard that good one died this week too.

Another time, though it was not his fault, he caught the whip in the horse's tail to his inside and after fighting it, threw it away. The distraction cost him in a blanket turf photo.

Rarely saw the masters: Shoe Bailey or Laffit make big errors.

Tim Y 03-31-2009 01:06 PM

philly 2nd NOT a good betting race as these are not quick learners; :2: has gone off the boil so :7: might take up the slack here, NOT a good race

:6: has been a good student in two races has "learned" how to race a bit, only a bit however

JLG 03-31-2009 01:10 PM

Tim, You mean philly 3rd?

Tim Y 03-31-2009 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JLG (Post 51453)
Tim, You mean philly 3rd?

I am trying to clean up, vacuum and dust and cap all at the same time, YUP that is the one.

I have become a domestic since I only work on the weekends

4 or 7 could be out front for awhile but they don't seem to have a big edge on the others. SIX at -16 e/l might me a bit too far out of it. and comment line says "passed faders."

Bill V. 03-31-2009 01:16 PM

Hello Tim
 
Sorry for the late shout
I enjoyed your work on the Philly races yesterday
Good Skill today I hope to catch a few races later in the card
Running down the NJ turnpike right now heading toward exit 6
which is the Penn Turnpike and Philly is at the convergance of the Penn
turnpike and Rt.1 Street Road Bensalam PA.

Bill

Tim Y 03-31-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 51456)
Sorry for the late shout
I enjoyed you work on the Philly races yesterday
Good Skill today I hope to catch a few races later in the card
Running down the NJ turnpike right now heading toward exit 6
which is the Penn Turnpike and Philly is at the convergance of the Penn
turnpike and Rt.1 Street Road Bensalam PA.

Bill

How did that truck repair work out? Not to expensive $$$$$$$$$$?

I LOVE PHILADELPHIA PARK...one of my all time favorites...Like I said I wish I could play it everyday but I only get it Monday/Tuesday

mikesal57 03-31-2009 01:18 PM

phil 3rd...#4

tamp3rd...#6

Tim Y 03-31-2009 01:36 PM

:6: out winging with :3: with the former getting the edge and :2: FROM THE CLOUDS.

:8: might be on the pace early too.

Wagering? Not at those odds

reckless 03-31-2009 01:41 PM

Philly Park
 
Is a great place to bet Tim... a great 'wakeup' track, and if one can financially and psycologically endure stretches of losing races, the rewards to those that persevere can be wonderful.

For years.... happens very frequently, horses that run horribly as a favorite come back to pay $15, $17 dollars, prices like that.

My friend was the long-time handicapping for the Philadelphia Inquirer...he'd make a horse best bet, and that steed would be 7-5 or so, often less. If they got beat, many times would win next out and pay 4-1. He was very influencial and a top handicapper, so when his picks lost, for some reason the crowd would abandon those horse next out.

Does anyone know if Philly Park is taking Will Rogers Downs?

At the phone bet web site, the track isn't listed today.

Good luck all.

mikesal57 03-31-2009 01:47 PM

phil 4th
 
w/p #8

mikesal57 03-31-2009 01:52 PM

tam 4...w/p #9

Tim Y 03-31-2009 01:59 PM

interesting photo finish shot: the favorite has a ski on its foreleg. When a horse has a leg coming backwards that is right in alignment with the photo scan of the race, it stays IN the frame during the photo and is elongated to look like a ski.

Funny artifact. Had a strange one the other night when the lights just happened to hit a buckle on the harness equipment and shined back a "flash" in the photos. We had to blow it up 350% to figure out what it was.

Tim Y 03-31-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 51462)
tam 4...w/p #9

looks like a hit

Bill V. 03-31-2009 02:01 PM

Mike
 
Hi Mike and Reckless
and all

Figures I get a chance to pull over and Philly Race 5 is a pass
:(

Hey Tim

Thanks . no problem. actually I had the big repair in December
so everything is still covered in the warrenty

Never say never maybe you will get Philly all week !
soon

GS
Bill

mikesal57 03-31-2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 51462)
tam 4...w/p #9

finally...

$29.20 $12.20

Tim Y 03-31-2009 02:02 PM

:3: :8: maiden race 5 philly but the crowd is all over this one

Bill V. 03-31-2009 02:03 PM

Mike
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 51462)
tam 4...w/p #9

BANG!!!!:)

1st 9 GOD GAVE ME STYLE $29.20 $12.20 $7.40
2nd 8 CRAZI TRUTH $4.60 $3.00
3rd 5 TOMS FIRST COYOTE $5.00
4th 10 LINCOLN IMP
5th 11 MAGICAL CURE

mikesal57 03-31-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Y (Post 51464)
looks like a hit

thxs...used the class drop and what he ran against 2nd call..works sometimes:D

mikesal57 03-31-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 51468)
BANG!!!!:)

1st 9 GOD GAVE ME STYLE $29.20 $12.20 $7.40
2nd 8 CRAZI TRUTH $4.60 $3.00
3rd 5 TOMS FIRST COYOTE $5.00
4th 10 LINCOLN IMP
5th 11 MAGICAL CURE

thxs bill u show up and I hit...lol

skipping race 5 too at Phil

Bill V. 03-31-2009 02:06 PM

Last week
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 51470)
thxs bill u show up and I hit...lol

skipping race 5 too at Phil

Yes Dad and I saw you hit a big bomb a few Saturdays ago
You bet the 10 w/p I had the 12
It came in 10-12 we both did real good !

Bill

mikesal57 03-31-2009 02:12 PM

Lets keep it going..

in looking at the 5 at Philly..

hmmm...the fav just barely held on to 3rd by a nose..can another firster pressure him??

look at #7....dam had 9 starters and there was 7 winners and 3 were stake winners..

also good works for this race

worth a w/p bet...#7

mikesal57 03-31-2009 02:17 PM

good position..nothing :o

JLG 03-31-2009 02:17 PM

PHL 6th. Why would the 8, who just won for 25clm come back for 12.5clm? thoughts:
- something is wrong with the horse
- connections made some cash and want to get rid of the horse

mikesal57 03-31-2009 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JLG (Post 51474)
PHL 6th. Why would the 8, who just won for 25clm come back for 12.5clm? thoughts:
- something is wrong with the horse
- connections made some cash and want to get rid of the horse

lets throw him out..and go with the 3 & 7

Tim Y 03-31-2009 02:21 PM

:1: :2: Tampa 5th but no bet nine or 5 might be out winging on the lead

mikesal57 03-31-2009 02:24 PM

lets go with the stranger in this race...#5

Tim Y 03-31-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlg (Post 51474)
phl 6th. Why would the 8, who just won for 25clm come back for 12.5clm? Thoughts:
- something is wrong with the horse
- connections made some cash and want to get rid of the horse

going backwards BIG TIME, only slow breezing works in New York......at BEST this one can only muster 4th best 2nd call. TOO SLOW as well.

:4: :7: :1: look solid here

well the FOUR wasn't so sold now

Tim Y 03-31-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 51477)
lets go with the stranger in this race...#5



5th race - Tampa Bay Downs - March 31, 2009
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
1 Wise Frolic 4.20 3.80 2.80
3 Let Peace Rule 7.00 4.20
2 Larissa's Dream 2.80

close

Tim Y 03-31-2009 02:37 PM

:6: :8: :9: on the green at Tampa's 6th four and one will be out front to catch but should be reeled in easily

mikesal57 03-31-2009 02:41 PM

last race for me today..tampa 6..#7

Tim Y 03-31-2009 02:42 PM

philly 6 now shifts to 1 3 7


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