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gl45 08-28-2005 11:36 AM

Great People
 
Hi
I like to thank you all for the great time.
Mr. Brooks, Bill (Binder), Jeff (Shoeless), Jeff and Kevin (PhaseIII) and Richie. (How can you not love him). All very knowledgeable about Sartin Programs, Val, Spec and Syn.
Binder knows how to pass races, unless he understands the race, he will not bet. Full understanding of Val and Spec. I will use his directions on how to use the programs.
PhaseIII, excellent and methodical fellow, he came prepared with all the selections already made. Great knowledge of programming, his home grown software is very interesting. I will incorporate it in mine, with his permission.
Shoeless, he loves to read the DRF PP's, he has an uncanny ability to choose the right pace line. I wish I could do the same.
Richie, what can I say. He can handicapp a race in seconds. Great understanding of Sartin programs. I will use his suggestions.
I wish Kevin a good school year, he'll start tomorrow, bummer.....nice young lad.
Mr. Brooks, a young retiree, loves to spend time with his son. Great to see that. Wish him all the best.
Everybody brought to the table something to be learned from. As for me, I don't know what contribution I made, but the few hours that I spent with the group, I did learn one thing:

FRIENDSHIP

shoeless 08-28-2005 12:42 PM

Pino you summed that up beautifully but dont sell yourself short.You had the right numbers in the 1st at Del but bet it wrong for a 200 ex.Also in the 9th you had that 55-1 shot that won in the mix but again a numbers thing.I was the one that couldnt add anything to the programs people were using.My problem is I can read the form and pick the paceline but then Im lost after that.Anyway it was a fun day. Shoeless

Phase III Lives 08-28-2005 01:32 PM

Kevin and I had a wonderful time... It was sure nice of Jeff to arrange this meeting. What a pleasure to meet everyone. Thinking of "What Binder would do" helped me on to a 13-1 shot. I was impressed at how people using the same methodolgy in priciple, came at it from varied approaches that were the right style for them, and still quite often came up with the same understanding of a race. Quite often readouts were different, programs different, but the key horse (often the high odds horse with a decent chance) was there for the taking. Pino came so close to the hit of a lifetime... I've never come close. But just knowing he was there, should give hime confidence the next time.

I enjoyed my converstions with Binders dad and was impressed at how Bill and Richie attack races on the fly - not my forte'

I enjoyed the friendship and conversation enjoyed by good people and kevin enjoyed himself very much...

RichieP 08-28-2005 04:36 PM

Wow!
 
I don't even know where to start. I wish that Phase,Shoe, Pino lived here. The most SINCERE people anyone can hope to meet.

Brooks: I know where Binder gets his class from. He is super sharp judging class at Monmouth and is getting the hang of Val3 thanx to his son's help. He did all the driving and still was rarin to go when the races came up! Thanx Brooks! You and Mrs. Bocce are like my second family.

Shoeless: Jeff I owe you big time. You are the nicest man with the biggest heart. All kidding aside here. Anyone who is a friend of yours is very lucky indeed. Your ability to select contenders and pacelines is very strong. Pino is right on here.

Phase: Your son is the spittin image of you man! We could see the love in his eyes looking at you and vice versa. Something really to behold. You are very prepared for your day at the races and what I took from you was just that. Having a game plan complete with a layout of possible races to wager on> You are very thorough and hit a beautiful bomb. Thanx for making me feel so comfortable meeting someone for the first time. My best to your son please!

Pino: You are so cool it's crazy. I love your accent lol Your programming skills u showed me are unreal I feel like we are related and that I have known you for years Pino I mean that You ever need anything u got it! I can not refuse you If I did u might send Uncle Vito after me u know the real real quiet guy that says nothing but then pulls the stiletto on ya!! Omerta

Binder: The sheer POWER of your abilities hit all of us yesterday. I truly don't know what the heck else to say except THANK YOU !!! I personally think u should attempt to find Doc man just to try and let him know how much he means to ya. He was crazy about you Bill u were special to him he told me so himself. Wow have u done him proud buddy!

Hey maybe next time we can all meet up say at Binder's track " Philly" how cool would that be Meeting other new friends would be fantastic. It really is all good

Richie

shoeless 08-28-2005 05:15 PM

Actually I must thank you guys for making me feel like part of the group,I know I do things a lot differently from the rest . I really appreciate all the help and friendship that each of you have given me.All the lunches in the world could never repay that.THANKS GUYS Shoeless

Binder 08-28-2005 06:14 PM

Pimlico with some friends
 
Thank You Shoeless

To Jeff, Pino Jeff, Rich ,Dad and Kevin
The V/DC - Pimlico meeting was fantastic
It was such a nice day . I hope my manners were ok, I As I really wanted to
step back and listen to all you guys ideas.and opinions. The excitement of meeting each other was great . I wanted to let you all know a few times I had to get up and take a little walk and soak in what was happening I was so happy for all my old and new friends
It was all about My friends helping and all pulling for my friends
Many times I walked around and look out to the track where all the great horses have run in the Preakness and also the Black Eyed Susan
Then when I would come back I saw our little group all together and it was so cool
Pino I just wanted that exacta so bad for you when you just missed at Delaware with that $117 winner
Rich you too... Just made the calls and got split
Dad, Sorry we didn't hit anything at Monmouth, But it was real nice working with you
on VAl 3
Shoe It was real nice to have you hit the exacta when we hit the turf race at Saratoga
together
Jeff, When you saw me up the betting windows and thanked me
It was a real nice moment. It took me till it was time to go to get the guts to say thank
you to you for all the great things you have shared here on the website

The Pimlico V/DC meeting was great
Thank you Jeff (Shoeless)for setting it all up

Good Skill
Bill
"Binder"

gl45 06-17-2011 06:29 PM

Winning at the races isn't fun anymore like it used to be. I had to retrace the beginning of my not so new endeavor which started with at Yahoo site about Sartin. I knew of Sartin since the beginning, but horses where not my bread and butter.
It's fun to see how it begin.

Bill V. 06-17-2011 09:36 PM

wow
 
The way we were

Thanks Pino
It was the time of our lives . I know those days still are magic in my mind


un raduno di amici per la vita

Bill

shoeless 06-18-2011 12:09 PM

Pino and Bill

Those were great times we had on the old website and when we got together at Pimlico and Laurel.I lost touch with Jeff after his Mom passed away and Gary I do hear from time to time.

gl45 06-18-2011 06:11 PM

Bill,
anytime you're coming near the MD or PA line PM me. we'll make a day at the race with shoe.

shoeless 06-18-2011 11:02 PM

Sounds good

Rverge 06-20-2011 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gl45 (Post 71484)
Bill,
anytime you're coming near the MD or PA line PM me. we'll make a day at the race with shoe.

do you or shoe ever get up to MNR? if you do let me know.
any one!
Rverge

shoeless 06-20-2011 07:51 PM

No I would be closer to CT, MNR would be quite a drive for me.

mikesal57 06-21-2011 08:16 AM

Hey...Was this a secret meeting ???? LOL

I totally agree with Pino..The guys here are the greatest..they will bend over backwards to help you out...
and I love you all

A trip to Saratoga is always exciting to me to see these guys...
But maybe we can get together somewhere else , I am a trip down the turnpike to PA, MD , MTH or my own Belmont, Aqu
I would love to see your faces in person..:)

Mike

Bill V. 06-21-2011 10:09 AM

late
 
Mike I could not agree with you more. Those early days of paceandcap were great times. No secret meeting. I think the Md. get together days were before you came aboard. You would have loved them. It was magic. It was either at laurel or Pimlico. Not sure which. Our group was so big they had to open up more tables in the restaurant
And who can ever forget. On the message board in the. Winners circle. Welcome Ace and Cap

gl45 06-21-2011 11:47 AM

LOL....they forgot the "P" for Pace and Cap. If i remember correctly Bill and I won money on the race.

gl45 06-21-2011 12:00 PM

Mike,
Bill posted some pictures of the gathering but are gone from the site.

Bill V. 06-21-2011 05:02 PM

yes
 
Hi Pino


Yes we did. I remember doing the race with Validator, and shaking your hand after the race.
Its sad that those photos are not on Pace and Cap anymore Somebody even
got one of me at the window placing the bet. I always liked that photo
Why they are gone , I am not sure. I recently had a desire to go and watch some of my old videos but they too are gone.

Like I said you cant delete memories of good times with good people they live forever in our minds
Even if they werent very good quality
they were fun.

mikesal57 06-21-2011 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 71497)
Mike I could not agree with you more. Those early days of paceandcap were great times. No secret meeting. I think the Md. get together days were before you came aboard. You would have loved them. It was magic. It was either at laurel or Pimlico. Not sure which. Our group was so big they had to open up more tables in the restaurant
And who can ever forget. On the message board in the. Winners circle. Welcome Ace and Cap

SO THIS WAS YEARS AGO???

I thought it just happened...

Man, your slow ..Pino :rolleyes:

LOL

shoeless 06-21-2011 08:30 PM

Bill,

We had it at both Laurel and Pimlico,the ace and cap was at Laurel.We went down to the winners circle to present the trophy,I was dissappointed how they set that up. Oh well that's Maryland racing for you.

Bill V. 06-22-2011 11:48 AM

Laurel
 
Jeff

I thought it was very nice They gave us a nice room The dinner was good
They took us on a little tour before the race. Then we went to the winners circle. I think the seven horse won and the exacta was 7 3 *
I have the picture. It was on my wall in my office. Now that Im traveling around the country the picture is at mom and dads house with all my momentos

The Pimlico day was great. Plus Richie made it down to that one
Brooks (dad) and Richie had me laughing so hard on the ride down.
My dad still talks about Richie from that trip.

Bill

*Ironic... At the Saratoga Sartin Bradshaw Race the exacta was 3 7

Bill V. 06-22-2011 12:24 PM

old video
 
The way we were

I found this oldiie this is about the quality of my old videos
Not the best but they were from the heart.
This is a race from 2007

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Bill V. 06-22-2011 12:32 PM

From RDSS
 
Thanks to Ted
using The Racingchannel Results link from the RDSS desktop
I went and checked the results and a happy recap.

The 1 horse did win !

Race: 9 Win Place Show
1st 1 Queen's Request 16.40 6.60 3.60
2nd 3 J. P. West 7.60 4.80
3rd 2 Happy Goldstein 3.40
4th 4 My Tejana Storm
$2 D/Double 1/1 346.80
$2 Exacta 1-3 127.60
$2 Trifecta 1-3-2 292.00
Refunds: None
$2 Pick 3 2/1/1 3 of 3 2440.40

shoeless 06-22-2011 07:45 PM

Bill,

Miss those videos of yours

noddub62 06-22-2011 09:27 PM

Shoeless,

And I miss your posts!

Bud;)

shoeless 06-23-2011 08:00 PM

Thanks Bud

Ted Craven 07-03-2011 05:46 PM

1 Attachment(s)
I found this old thread which is from the Laurel Paceandcap Day in 2006. Lots of nice photos. Most of the people are identified in this other thread.

http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1593

Attachment 22743

Ted

shoeless 07-04-2011 10:25 AM

Ted,

Thanks for putting up that photo,Im the one on the far right and next to me is Pino.I must have put on at least 25 lbs since then.

partsnut 07-04-2011 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 71663)
Ted,

Thanks for putting up that photo,Im the one on the far right and next to me is Pino.I must have put on at least 25 lbs since then.

Jeff, those were some great days. I remember the work you put into that day.
I wasn't able to get there but I was very happy that the event was successful and everyone that participated had a great time.

Bill V. 07-05-2011 06:30 PM

Hello
 
Hi Bill
So nice to see you here. Its so great that Ted dug up the picture
A great big thank you to Ted ...
For everything ...

Wish somebody took some Pimlico photos

Bill V.
Atlanta Ga.

partsnut 07-06-2011 05:51 AM

Bill V.

"Hi Bill
So nice to see you here. Its so great that Ted dug up the picture
A great big thank you to Ted ...
For everything ...

Wish somebody took some Pimlico photos

Bill V.
Atlanta Ga."
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Hi Bill,
Thanks. It's always great to hear from you.

I fondly remember those days of friendship, caring and closeness.
We had a hell of a group.

A big thank you to Ted as well.


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