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Ted Craven 05-01-2022 01:19 PM

Rules and Sign-up
 
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Ted Craven 05-01-2022 01:21 PM

Rules
 
Contest takes place the weekends of May 21/22 (Preakness Stakes) and May 28/29.

Open to all PaceandCap members as of April 30, 2022 regardless of whatever handicapping method or software you may use.

A $50 entry fee is payable by PayPal to the Contest winners at the end.

Each day, you get a $100 mythical bankroll to wager for that day.

One card of races will be announced the day before each race day (first day is Pimlico/Preakness Stakes Day).

Players must be involved in a minimum of 30% of all Contest races over the 4 days. Horizontal bets count as 1 'race'. No more than $100 bet per day but a minimum of $200 over the 4 days. Top 4 day ROI% wins.

Betting pools permitted: Win, Place, Show, Exacta, Double, Pick3
(Please see below for the caps for each pool.)

In the spirit of Bill Varone's love of teaching, players are encouraged to provide some explanations for their selections from time to time, though this is not required.

The Prize Fund will be determined by the total entry fees (plus some other prizes) with 70% of entry fees going to the Winner and 30% to the 2nd place finisher. For example, if 10 players sign up, the Prize Fund is $500 with $350 to the winner and $150 to second finisher. Non winning contestants will be advised of amounts to send by PayPal to the winners. Players are on their honour to pay their entry fees at the end.

The Contest closes for entries at 9pm Pacific Time Friday May 20.

The Contest will be held only if there are a minimum of 5 signed-up Contestants.

'May the 4 horse be with you!'

AMENDED RULE 5/21/22, 12:18 PM. ALL BETS MUST BE RECEIVED AT LEAST ONE MINUTE PRIOR TO THE TIME SHOWN ON THE OFFICIAL CHARTS. BILL LYSTER'S COMPUTER TIME ON THE WEST COAST AND ADJUSTED FOR EASTERN TIME WILL BE THE DECIDER.

Ted Craven 05-01-2022 01:47 PM

Contest Manager
 
This year's Contest Manager is Bill Lyster. Thanks Bill for agreeing to supervise this contest day to day! Previous years' manager Pook is unable to preside this year due to family health issues but is with us in spirit.

Bill will be tallying the wagers daily and putting up the contest Leaderboard each evening.

If there are any questions about Contest Rules, please ask them below and either Bill or I will answer them.

Ted

Ted Craven 05-01-2022 02:02 PM

Pool Caps - Maximum Payouts Permitted
 
There will be 6 betting pools permitted, in the spirit of handicapping prowess and not swinging for the fences with super-longshots or runaway payouts, payouts in each pool will be capped as follows:

Win - $30 for a $2 bet
Place - $15 for a $2 bet
Show - $7 for a $2 bet

Exacta - $60 for a $1 bet
Double - $60 for a $1 bet
Pick3 - $250 for a $.50 bet (or $500 for a $1 bet)

Minimum bets for each pool are:

Win/Place/Show - $2
Exacta/Double - $1
Pick3 - $.50

Examples:
Bet $2 Win with payout price of $40 for each $2 - you get $30 ($2 maximum)
Bet $5 Exacta combo which pays $70 for each $1 bet - you get $60 ($1 maximum) x $5 = $300
Bet $1 Pick3 combo with pays $600 for each $1 bet - you get $500 ($1 maximum

Please see discussion from last year for several questions and answers about bet maximums and payouts: http://paceandcap.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13696

You can bet any amount you want in each pool (subject tot the minimum above), as many horses per race and per wager, and as many races for the day as you want - up to the $100 daily maximum.

Feel free to ask any questions!

Ted

Ted Craven 05-01-2022 02:07 PM

Prize Fund
 
The Prize Fund is split 70% to the Winner and 30% to the runner up, based on Total ROI% over the 4 days, subject to the minimum number of plays described in the opening post.

With $50 from each player, for example 10 players produces a Prize Fund of $500.

Additionally there will be 2 RDSS-related prizes:

1-month Unlimited RDSS data
6-month RDSS Subscription

The winner chooses which of these RDSS-related prizes they prefer and the runner-up gets the other one.

Ted

Ted Craven 05-01-2022 02:07 PM

Sign-up
 
I'm in! Challenging all of last years Contestants to join again this year :jump::jump:
Ted

Mrbill 05-01-2022 06:07 PM

Sign Up
 
I haven't played before but count me in for this.

Mr Bill

Speed Figure 05-02-2022 01:28 PM

Have you ever thought about creating a private tournament on horse-tourneys for this?

Ted Craven 05-02-2022 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speed Figure (Post 144804)
Have you ever thought about creating a private tournament on horse-tourneys for this?

Not yet, but perhaps an idea for next year, thanks! Discussion for such an option (e.g. Horse Tourneys) could happen in a separate thread.

Ted

Ted Craven 05-02-2022 01:59 PM

Added one more rule to the opening Rules post:

"The Contest will be held only if there are a minimum of 5 signed-up Contestants."

So far there are 2 signed up!

Ted

DanBoals 05-02-2022 03:26 PM

Glad to see the board running a contest. This sounds like lots of fun, especially since most of us are using the ideas of the Sartin Methodology. I love contests, but 4 days over two weekends is too big of a commitment for me to make right now...

If in the future, if someone wants to run a one day contest, especially if the rules are simpler, like whoever makes the most money wins, I would definitely be interested.

Seriously appreciate you guys putting in the unpaid work to run something like this, I know it will eat up a ton of time. Good luck to all who will be competing.

Dan

Ted Craven 05-02-2022 05:35 PM

Thanks Dan. Last year's winner - Ray K - made just a couple of Win bets per day, if I recall. Could be that simple, or one could make numerous more complex bets. According to availability and preference.

But, hope to see you another year or in another Contest!

Ted

The Pook 05-02-2022 07:32 PM

Circumstances have changed and the date of the contest has been pushed back so the old Pook will be able to play. I still can’t commit to managing it though, so thanks to Bill Lyster and Ted.

I’m in. Looking forward to it. Makes three!

Pook

shoeless 05-03-2022 01:53 PM

Nice job Ted putting something together in honor of Bill, I like the picture.

darmar 05-03-2022 07:49 PM

Ok I'm ready to play again this year.
Darryl

Ted Craven 05-03-2022 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 144845)
Nice job Ted putting something together in honor of Bill, I like the picture.

That graphic was designed by Pook for last year's inaugural Contest. Nice one indeed: the hat, the 4 horse ... :)

Ted

Ted Craven 05-03-2022 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darmar (Post 144854)
Ok I'm ready to play again this year.
Darryl

Good to have you Darryl. A rematch!

Entrants so far:

Mr Bill
Ted Craven
Pook
Darryl (darmar)

Ted

mattshan 05-04-2022 04:56 PM

Count Me In
 
Hi All,

I have been using the RDSS software off and on for about 4 or 5 years now. I recently retired and have more time to work on my game (golf and racing). A joyful time of life indeed. I have spent significant time on the site but have never joined the conversation and it feels like now is a good time to do so. I appreciate all of the insight and perspective that so many of you have provided to date via the site.

I look forward to participating in the contest and I think that makes five of us.

Thanks again!

DanBoals 05-04-2022 05:02 PM

Hi Matt,

Welcome aboard!

One of the main things I like about the Sartin Methodology is that most of the people who have learned and are using it are pretty generous in sharing their knowledge. I hope you have a similar experience and I want to welcome you to to the board, everyone I have conversed with here has been fun and informative.

You are using the correct software, IMO, with RDSS. The Sartin Methodology has made more gamblers into winners than anything else other than maybe cheating.

Dan

mattshan 05-04-2022 05:13 PM

Thanks Dan!!
 
Dan,

I appreciate your welcome message and your sharing. I have marveled at the generosity of the community here and look forward to being more active in the group.

Thank you!

Lt1 05-04-2022 06:00 PM

Welcome aboard Matt and good luck in the contest. Looking forward to more post from you in the future now that you have retired.
Tim

mattshan 05-04-2022 06:19 PM

Thank you Tim.

Much Appreciated!

Ted Craven 05-04-2022 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mattshan (Post 144872)
Hi All,

I have been using the RDSS software off and on for about 4 or 5 years now. I recently retired and have more time to work on my game (golf and racing). A joyful time of life indeed. I have spent significant time on the site but have never joined the conversation and it feels like now is a good time to do so. I appreciate all of the insight and perspective that so many of you have provided to date via the site.

I look forward to participating in the contest and I think that makes five of us.

Thanks again!

Hey - you made it! Welcome, and great to have you as a Contestant/competitor. :thumb:

Ted

mattshan 05-04-2022 09:59 PM

Thanks Ted
 
Thank you Ted and glad to be here.
For the rest of you my username is generated off of my kids names (adults now). My name is Blake McHenry and I live in Columbus, Ohio.
Thanks again guys!

stormbringer 05-05-2022 03:52 PM

Asking questions
 
Is Lt1 and rmath in?

Ted Craven 05-05-2022 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 144887)
Is Lt1 and rmath in?


Here are the Contestants so far. The Contest is officially ON :jump:

Mr Bill
Ted Craven
Pook
Darryl (darmar)
Blake M (mattshan)

Alas, 'rmath' has passed away.

Ted

stormbringer 05-05-2022 07:15 PM

Well he will be ther all of us. He loved this site (from what I could tell!
Question: can women play ?

Do they have to use Rdss2.???

Ted Craven 05-05-2022 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stormbringer (Post 144890)


Question: can women play ?

Do they have to use Rdss2.???

Whaatt?! Please be serious. 'Open to all PaceandCap members as of April 30, 2022 regardless of whatever handicapping method or software you may use.'

Feel free to join the Contest - the more the merrier!

Ted

mowens33 05-06-2022 07:05 PM

Ted, I'm in!

Mike

Ted Craven 05-07-2022 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mowens33 (Post 144903)
Ted, I'm in!

Mike


Glad to have you aboard Mike!

CheckMark 05-12-2022 01:28 PM

Hi Ted sorry for the inactivity on here I have been working a lot lately and have not had time to be around the multiple forums that I am on but I have a few days off (counting today) that I was able to browse around on the internet and see that you are holding a contest this year again!

Count me in and good luck to everyone else I hope to get a good placing just like last year!

Conley

Ted Craven 05-13-2022 12:38 AM

Welcome aboard Conley!

Here are the current contestants:

1. Mr Bill
2. Ted Craven
3. Pook
4. Darryl (darmar)
5. Blake M (mattshan)
6. Mowens (Mike O)
7. CheckMark (Conley E)

cdax 05-16-2022 07:55 PM

Glad I stopped in today.
 
I'm in. Gonna be pretty busy Preakness Day but, I'm in.

It's been a looooong time since I've played in a forum contest.

$100 per day, $400 total for 4 days? yes, I'm in.

Best of luck to all.

Chris

Ted Craven 05-16-2022 11:14 PM

Great timing Chris - another great competitor! People here with a long enough memory will recall that you won that statue in your avatar-image from a PaceAdvantage contest which I think RDSS sponsored, in part.

Now if we can just get the 'Dogkatcher,' we'll have quite the rematch/reunion ;)

Ted

gandalf380 05-17-2022 06:00 PM

You can count me in also.

Ted Craven 05-17-2022 10:16 PM

Thanks Charlie!

Contestant list:

1. Mr Bill
2. Ted Craven
3. Pook
4. Darryl (darmar)
5. Blake M (mattshan)
6. Mowens (Mike O)
7. CheckMark (Conley E)
8. cdax (Chris D)
9. gandalf380 (Charlie B)

Prize fund is now 9 x $50 = $450 cash. Plus RDSS prizes.

3 more days to sign up. Come one, come all ...

Ted

Bill Lyster 05-19-2022 02:39 PM

Reminder that the entry window for the contest will close Friday evening
 
The deadline for contest entry is nine (9) pm Friday evening, Eastern time, six (6) pm West Coast time.

So far we have nine entries, so anyone else that would like to play, please make yourselves known by deadline time. A final list of entrants will be posted after the deadline.



Thanks,

Bill Lyster

cigar 05-19-2022 08:38 PM

Count me in.....

Bill Lyster 05-20-2022 10:15 AM

Thanks Cigar, now we have 10 players!

Capcondo 05-20-2022 01:51 PM

Looking forward to playing this year. I'm in.


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