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tompkins 10-22-2006 03:09 PM

ride the bias as long as it is there
 
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3rd race - Woodbine - October 22, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
7 Biblical Times 13.80 6.30 4.20
1 Signals Inthe Wind 5.60 3.70
4 Just a Bluff 3.10

$2 Triactor 7-1-4 185.20
$2 Exactor 7-1 67.70

tompkins 10-22-2006 04:39 PM

not surface specific either
 
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5th race - Woodbine - October 22, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
3 Arravale 11.50 6.20 4.30
8 Barancella (FR) 16.70 9.00
6 Naissance Royale (IRE) 6.90

$2 Triactor 3-8-6 2,282.00
$2 Exactor 3-8 233.30

tompkins 10-22-2006 04:48 PM

bias time anyone?
 
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6th race - Fort Erie - October 22, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
8 In Love in Seattle 7.80 4.80 3.70
1 Speedstorm 3.20 3.50
6 Aliflash 4.10

$2 Triactor 8-1-6 178.00
$2 Exactor 8-1 33.80

another "splitzacta"

tompkins 10-22-2006 04:54 PM

when it works
 
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it over-rides most all other considerations.
6th race - Woodbine - October 22, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
4 Why Not Love 14.50 7.30 4.20
10 Piece of the Pie 27.90 13.10
12 Miss Rudy Pants 3.80

$2 Triactor 4-10-12 2,853.00 another "splitzacta"
$2 Exactor 4-10 460.40
$1 Superfecta 4-10-12-7 5,587.50


PHYSIOLOGICIALLY it makes a lot of sense: it far easier for a horse to exert energy to MAINTAIN a position more than OVERTAKE it that late in an exertion.

tompkins 10-22-2006 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by partsnut (Post 12816)

From what I am led to believe, this angle came from Tom Brohammer.

since he is not privy to this calcuation how could it have come from the gentleman? I would like to see the source on that belief. Quote it to me.

tompkins 10-22-2006 06:43 PM

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still going and made better by the rain.
10th race - Fort Erie - October 22, 2006
Pgm Horse Win Place Show
3 Final Pride 19.70 9.00 4.90
1 Charge Me 2.80 2.20
5 News At Noon 3.90

$2 Triactor 3-1-5 280.10
$2 Daily Double 3-3 115.50
$2 Exactor 3-1 57.30


this time it is a TOPzacta.

partsnut 10-23-2006 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tompkins (Post 12840)
since he is not privy to this calcuation how could it have come from the gentleman? I would like to see the source on that belief. Quote it to me.



I am not trying to disprove your work. In fact, I appreciate your efforts.
All I'm saying is that I've seen something to this effect in "The Pace Makes The Race". I no longer have the book, so I can't quote you verbatem.
Even if you adapted some of his theory, You own whatever method you derived and concluded from it and if it works for you then don't fix it.
If it works for you, all good and well.
It certainly works for me and for that, I thank you for bringing it to my attention.

You seem to be very defensive in your response to other members and for what reason is beyond me.
It is not my purpose in life to be an antagonist or be condescending.
If I agree or disagree with you is a mute point.
However, I have derived some useful information from your posts.
I am here to learn from and with people I consider to be friends.

tompkins 10-23-2006 11:00 AM

I appreciate your comments. It is obvious you are not up to speed on my history here.

admin 10-23-2006 03:42 PM

gaskets
 
very well said Bill
you are a gentleman and a winner

partsnut 10-24-2006 11:38 AM

Respect The Thoughts And Feelings Of Others
 
I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion and this is also what makes handicapping a great and challenging pastime.
We must respect each others opinion, whether or not it conforms to to your way of thinking, the methodology or whatever.
This board was created with an open format.
Let's keep it that way.
Let's not surpress the thoughts and ideas of others.
Lets not belittle each other.
New ideas and concepts are healthy.
If they do not conform to the rules of the FU's and the Methodology then so be it.
Maybe the rules need updating or in fact were not valid in the first place.
The proof is in the pudding and besides, it is my personal belief that some rules were meant to be broken.:D
The freedom of speech free thought is my first amendment.


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