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JimG 10-15-2008 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 41605)
Jim,You are always quick to post your comments about what others say ,yet never once have you shown anybody here anything worthwhile of how you handicap a race just my opinion.

Your right Jeff. That is your opinion. Nobody else has ever stated this to me in over 10 years of participating on bulletin boards going back to Prodigy. However, many people have thanked me for things I have done in the past. Seems to me that was something you failed to do when I sent you a handicapping cassette tape gratis a couple of years ago. A simple thank you would have been nice.

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Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 41605)
Also I dont consider Bill a moderator he is the one that's started this site and if it wasnt for him doing so there would be no talk of RDSS or the match up.In case anyone has a short memory it was RX Lawyer that got Hat here in the 1st place.

I am not sure what you are trying to say here. It would be nice if you would hit the <space> bar on your computer twice after you place a period at the end of a sentence. Otherwise, it is hard to read.

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Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 41605)
Im just defending myself if you all would drop the subject it would be over and done with

It was "over and done with" and then you decided to add commentary about Richie P., a man I hold in high regard that has bent over backwards to help many people on here learn the match-up. When does your self imposed "banning" from this website begin? I hate to see guys like Turbulator talk about leaving.

VoodooFan 10-15-2008 05:02 PM

Honesty is one thing.

Cheap shots, ESPECIALLY on people you "say" are your "friends" is quite another.

If these comments are part of how you feel about Ted, Bill, Richie and other people you come in contact in life....

If this is whats seething underneath your heart...

If this is what you use to measure people you come in contact with in your life and "pocket" it to be used as a WEAPON for later....

If EVERY act or action someone does or gets done/accomplished is considered "we owe you for LIFE and forever"....

Wow.

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" Everything I think is WRONG about you....,"

" The things that I think you do are WRONG...,"

" Why I think parts of your life is WRONG...,"

" Some people I think you associate with is WRONG...,"

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" Here's my list of things WRONG with you, so are never in a position to say anything about anybody, or do anything about anyone....,"

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shoeless 10-15-2008 06:09 PM

Jim, It was over and done with I had sent Bill an e mail telling him so then Richie's post appeared.Im not going to have him blast me here and not respond.If you sent me something Im sure I would have said thanks if not then sorry about that.I also have given many people here things on this site and have asked nothing in return.What bothers me the most is that people who I have given things to and told me without me asking that they would send something and then never do.You and others here dont like what I post or dont like me period which is fine.But at least I can say that I have been honest with people.Dont judge a book by it's cover,some people have their own agenda why they do things.

shoeless 10-15-2008 06:16 PM

Turbulator,It's done so you can come back,there was nothing wrong with my statement just an honest opinion.If you ask me your asking the same questions over and over again is more then enough reason for one to leave.If you havent gotten it by now you never will.

JimG 10-15-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 41669)
Turbulator,If you ask me your asking the same questions over and over again is more then enough reason for one to leave.If you havent gotten it by now you never will.

What a snotty thing to say to someone trying to learn. Statements like that above make you look like a loser. Just my honest opinion.

JimG 10-15-2008 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by shoeless (Post 41668)
What bothers me the most is that people who I have given things to and told me without me asking that they would send something and then never do.You and others here dont like what I post or dont like me period which is fine.But at least I can say that I have been honest with people.Dont judge a book by it's cover,some people have their own agenda why they do things.

Jeff,

We've all been wronged at times. That's life. But you allude to it over and over again in vague references talking about "agendas", etc. I have no problem judging people. I did not just fall off the turnip truck. Your being "honest" just comes across as an excuse to be an a$$hole to people. But by your own admission, you don't care what people think. I am done with you. I just hope Pace and Cap is too.

Tim Y 10-15-2008 06:37 PM

and here I thought it was old William Shakespeare who wrote "Much Ado about NOTHING."

VoodooFan 10-15-2008 06:45 PM

How about this for a new idea.

How bout if one have a personal issue with someone, whether wrong or right, how bout we send them IMMEDIATELY and EARLY enough a private email, telephone call, postal mail expressing our feelings ALL OUT, right or wrong, win-lose or draw, at whatever consequences it will ensue.

Cuss , name call whatever, but privately come to some understanding and conclusion so the fight don't go to the street in public.

If we really feel that strong about a percieved transgression, why let it fester for years with the opportunity waiting to happen to explode sewage over our frustration?

If it does bother us that much that it comes up and is in our thoughts, it IS a problem, don't kid ourselves, or it would NEVER come up and out.

Have it out with the person ,privately and finish it ONCE and FOR ALL. No matter how long it takes, till it's completely gone and out your system FOREVER more.

I personally don't have any friends or associates that I have percieved transgressions that fester and bother me enough subconsciously.

Those that do bother me to that nit-pickin extent are NOT my friends or associates, and I keep and stay out of their way and contact.

Life is too short to bother with people you have unresolved issues with, even subconsciously.

VoodooFan

shoeless 10-15-2008 06:59 PM

Your right Im a loser,I have nothing more to say.

shoeless 10-15-2008 10:55 PM

Pino,Houndog,Parts and Cecil thanks for being really great friends I really appreciate everything you have done for me no matter what.Fast and M Beer thanks as well for your support .Knowing I have made friends such as you guys have made this a worthwhile experience for me.Bill V thanks as well we have had our ups and downs but I consider you a friend and hope we can get together someday.


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