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grahors 09-27-2008 09:57 PM

Made it to 74th place with $62.20
There is always next week.
Good luck to all.....
Cecil

Turbulator 09-27-2008 11:11 PM

I didn't see my name anywhere on the list, but I ended up with about $40.00. (I did see grahors, Charlie D and Shanta1.)

I passed up two (in my opinion) cinch winners, Starbound and Wait a While in order to try for a price.

But my efforts were somewhat in vain. I made my selections about 7am and then went to bed. Three of my selections were scratched and I ended up on the favorites anyway. (Two of which won.)

I guess to have the best chance you need to play these things live.

Another strategy I'm considering is to toss the first three favorites as if they didn't exist and then handicap the race from there. But NOT the first three morning line favorites. I've seen too many 4-1 morning line horses pay $32.00.

If you won every single race at average odds of three to one you might have had a chance at winning THIS contest. But with over 2000 entries, if one or two bombs hit the board you have to figure someone will have them.

So if someone has two out of three bombs and three or four of the lower price horses they are going to be the ones to beat. And by lower price I mean in the $8.00 to $15.00 range.

They are still good practice. Some of those races I never even look at. 1 1/2 mile turf and 1 1/4 mile races never even enter my radar. Maiden races with lots of first time starters. Two-year old races, etc.

Steve

gandalf380 09-27-2008 11:40 PM

I finished with $21.80. Not a particularly stellar day. Oh well.

Charlie Bedard

Turbulator 09-27-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Turbulator (Post 40709)
I didn't see my name anywhere on the list, but I ended up with about $40.00. (I did see grahors, Charlie D and Shanta1.)

I finally found it. I finished 102 with $59.20. (Just one bomb away from being in the hunt.)

Turbulator 09-28-2008 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turbulator (Post 40709)
So if someone has two out of three bombs and three or four of the lower price horses they are going to be the ones to beat. And by lower price I mean in the $8.00 to $15.00 range.

You know, now that I think about it, I could be all wet on this (or little damp.) The longest shot to come in today was Otter Island paying $17.60 and $9.00. The second longest shot paid $10.00 and $5.00. Obviously, you needed both of those along with three or four others.

I had Otter Island, but I didn't have Casino Gold. Maybe with mandatory races you need to take a slightly different tack, but I still believe the fact remains that you pretty much have to hit most (or in this case all) of the higher priced horses.

I do believe you can pass up the even money shots, no matter how good they look and try to get a big place price on a longshot--who could also win.

There are a lot of ways to think about this.

My Winning Results:

TP (7) silver sword (place) $8.00 (14.6 to 1)
TP (8) West Side Bernie $ 5.60 $3.80 (scratched in) (1.8 to 1)
BP (9) Grand Couturier $ 7.30 $4.10 (2.65 to 1)
BP (11) Otter Island $17.60 $9.00 (7.8 to 1)
OT (9) Vacare (place) $4.40 (4.3 to 1)

My Losing Results:

OT (9) Malusita Odds 85.7 (finished 9th)
OK (10) Surf Cat Odds 13.3 (finished 4th)
OK (11) Posse's Princess Odds 51.9 (finished last)
TP (5) Lady Simpson Odds 24.3 (finished fifth)
TP (6) Bold Union Odds 1.8 (scratched in)

chris 09-28-2008 02:05 AM

Interesting contest
 
Interesting, in that with three tracks on the menu, they served us so many Maiden Races? But again it's their contest, not mine. Particularly interesting because I usually pass Mdn races; so how did I fare with the Mdns? Two first place finishes and one second. Guess I'll have to re-think that one.

Finished in 372th place with $44.80 as "palikari" my new TVG handle.

Regards,
Chris

jms62 09-28-2008 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chris (Post 40714)
Interesting, in that with three tracks on the menu, they served us so many Maiden Races? But again it's their contest, not mine. Particularly interesting because I usually pass Mdn races; so how did I fare with the Mdns? Two first place finishes and one second. Guess I'll have to re-think that one.

Finished in 372th place with $44.80 as "palikari" my new TVG handle.

Regards,
Chris

Same here 44.80.. Looking for prices

RichieP 09-28-2008 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grahors (Post 40705)
Made it to 74th place with $62.20
There is always next week.
Good luck to all.....
Cecil

Darn good score Cecil! You said you were gonna move forward and you did man. I sucked. Think I made the top 2,000.

JimG 09-28-2008 10:43 AM

Somehow I wound up with $2.40 in the contest. I didn't mean to. :eek:

RichieP 10-04-2008 09:03 PM

10/4 Result
 
4 Attachment(s)
I fared a lot better in this one with 3 winners from the 10 races. Forget this place crap man :eek:

$5.40
$8.80
$18.00

Bet = $20.00
Ret = $32.20

Nowhere to be found in contest.


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