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RichieP 03-14-2007 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by froggy (Post 16611)
Richie,

I read your analysis of Turfway 0304 race 8 with great interest.
With SPEC160 using the same lines you used I came up with 1-6-3-5 with the 1 and the 6 having a balance of 4.
My question is:
Do you find it effective to go back 90 or more days with animals as cheap as these?

Froggy

Hi Froggy,
I don't pay attention to days back. I am sure by doing this it burns me at times.

Hey if you do not mind a little feedback on the "balance" readout. When you get down to FIVE contenders be VERY wary of any horse with a balance of 9 or higher. Something is NOT right with the horse compared to todays computerized matchup.

While everyone selects contenders/lines differently this balance of 9 or higher when reducing contenders to FIVE was a "trigger" to throw the horse out for WIN consideration.

This remained CONSISTENTLY true for over EIGHT years of working the software.

stay cool
Richie

Bill Lyster 03-14-2007 10:08 AM

Raw Matchup vs adjusted data screen question
 
Richie:

How do you use or integrate the observations and data from the Raw Matchup information when the data gets adjusted? Do you go through the Matchup process with adjusted data? Are you looking for verification of the raw matchup info? And what do you do in either case? If adjusted matches raw and if adjusted leans toward a horse other than the raw matchup.

Thanks,
Bill

froggy 03-14-2007 10:14 AM

Richie

Thanks for the info on balance.
I get a little nervous when balance is 7.

Froggy

RichieP 03-14-2007 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Lyster (Post 16618)
Richie:

How do you use or integrate the observations and data from the Raw Matchup information when the data gets adjusted? Do you go through the Matchup process with adjusted data? Are you looking for verification of the raw matchup info? And what do you do in either case? If adjusted matches raw and if adjusted leans toward a horse other than the raw matchup.

Thanks,
Bill

Bill
I use only raw unadjusted data when I work and BET races.

The other screens I put up to let folks see the adjusted stuff. After all to be HONEST there is almost nobody working races totally depending on raw pacelines.

For myself when I work a race ONLY the raw screen showing the pacelines is looked at. There also will be 2-6 :eek: lines entered for some individual horses I feel are the TRUE win contenders in an attempt to see a 'picture" of the horse combining pacelines.

It is ALL good Bill. Many ways to make a buck in this game man:)

Richie

admin 03-14-2007 05:01 PM

Tp0313
 
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Hi Rich
Thanks for picking a cool race on the polytrack
I am just going to show this screen
I used RDSS just as if it was validator
I picked my pacelines from the best of the last 3
from the ADJUSTED screen
based on my projected pace of the race

My win bets will be the 1 and the 5

here are the BL BL screen and the segments
screen
GS
Bill

RichieP 03-14-2007 06:44 PM

Late scratch
 
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I see the 1 is scratched. That leaves a field of 7 and now brings the 5 horse into the race. the line I marked 3rd back shows BOTH break and 1st call where he should be TODAY - trailing in 7th spot

so I will enter also referencing the line on the bottom against a fast pace where at the 6f point he was moving powerfully to the lead

I am just gonna post up the bl/bl screen

first the 5 pace line screen

RichieP 03-14-2007 06:45 PM

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now the bl/bl

admin 03-14-2007 08:01 PM

The 6
 
Nice work Rich

The 6 was a nice solid 4/1 you really do a fantasic job teaching us
I could very easily see how you got down to the final 3

I really appreciate your work

GS
Bill

RichieP 03-14-2007 08:29 PM

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Here is the race result

RichieP 03-14-2007 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by admin (Post 16638)
Nice work Rich

The 6 was a nice solid 4/1 you really do a fantasic job teaching us
I could very easily see how you got down to the final 3

I really appreciate your work

GS
Bill

Hi Bill
when you scratch the 1 YOUR readouts have the nice winner clearly best too!
:)

Richie


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