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Capcondo 12-17-2011 02:11 PM

HAW race #8
 
With the 5 scratched the pace is going to be slow; somewhere around 22.8 or 23.0 in the first quarter. The 2 doesn't look like he can fight.

I'm looking for a horse that can win against slow paces and stay fairly close to the leaders.

My choice is the 10.

Tim

lone speed 12-17-2011 02:14 PM

I am going with the #3 because he comes off the best sustained last fraction and is placed properly today.

PeteC 12-17-2011 02:24 PM

With the 5 out I used the 2 and the 6 to come up with a projected pace (in tenths) of 22.5 46.3…I do not feel these 2 will hang on and win so I’m looking for an OTE winner…

#1 fought all the way last time which I like. I also looked at line 3 against 22.3 46.0. The horse won that race from 4th at the 1C.

#4 Won from 3rd position against 22.0 45.4 last time. Line 9 was also a win against a slightly slower pace of 22.7 46.5.

#4 is my top pick and #1 is my second choice…

Blueken555 12-17-2011 06:11 PM

Going with the 3 and 1. Like them running late

Good Luck
Ken

mikesal57 12-18-2011 08:21 AM

Nice going Pete and Bill for his mentioned of the 4..
Like I said in my 1st post....it was a value race seeing that the favorite had a negative against him.

For an exercise....

This will take some record keeping but can be worth it, especially if you do a track on a regular basis...

when the favorite loses the race , write down his running style and a possible reason why he lost...

you'd be surprised on how many times the same reason come up

A "value" race

mike

For The Lead 12-18-2011 10:30 AM

Weekly review
 
I'm having some computer issues so I will not be posting my review.
For those who may be interested, here are the horses and lines I would use. Perhaps you might like to review the horses and lines I chose and see if you understand the reason I chose these horses and lines based on the reviews I have posted previously.
If you want to run these horses and lines through whatever software program it is you are using, please do so and see how it would work out for you.
The one thing to understand is this, when I choose horses and lines, I am NOT trying the find the find the fastest speed rating, final time or total energy for each horse based on a previous line. As per the Paceline Manual, I am just using the "most recent" race where the horse ran 1st, 2nd, 3rd or showed good early form by being 1st or 2nd at the first and/or second calls. If this is not the last line, then there must be a valid reason to go back ONE LINE. Ok, here we go.

#1 - line 1
#2 - line 1 (not that I would use it, but line 3 has no fractional times)
#3 - line 1
#4 - line 1
#5 - scratched
#6 - NO LINE- ML=20/1
#7 - line 2
#8 - NO LINE
#9 - NO LINE
#10 - line 1
#11 - line 2

I have no idea how this would work out in ENERGY, so if anybody runs these horses and lines through that program, please, post up the results. Thanks.

mikesal57 12-18-2011 10:47 AM

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Hi FTL..

I was waiting for your post and your analysis....

here it goes....looks like Energy is on the button again with the 4

BTW..what problems are you having with your PC?

For The Lead 12-18-2011 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 76514)
Hi FTL..

I was waiting for your post and your analysis....

here it goes....looks like Energy is on the button again with the 4

BTW..what problems are you having with your PC?

That was QUICK!
Thanks for posting it up.

Yeah, ENERGY got it!
Just remember, it's the lines.
Without the right lines, you may not get the right result.

Oh, the PC question.
It's not my "PC", it's my laptop, which is less than two months old. All of a sudden it won't boot up.

mikesal57 12-18-2011 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by For The Lead (Post 76517)
That was QUICK!
Thanks for posting it up.

Yeah, ENERGY got it!
Just remember, it's the lines.
Without the right lines, you may not get the right result.

Oh, the PC question.
It's not my "PC", it's my laptop, which is less than two months old. All of a sudden it won't boot up.

Thats bad....for a laptop to act like that..

Do you have recovery disks to install it back to factory?

PeteC 12-18-2011 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 76509)
Nice going Pete and Bill for his mentioned of the 4..
Like I said in my 1st post....it was a value race seeing that the favorite had a negative against him.

For an exercise....

This will take some record keeping but can be worth it, especially if you do a track on a regular basis...

when the favorite loses the race , write down his running style and a possible reason why he lost...

you'd be surprised on how many times the same reason come up

A "value" race

mike

Thanks Mike, that sounds like a good exercise indeed and I will take a look at that...


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