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lsosa54 08-30-2008 09:48 AM

Keep in mind on Divine that he's only gone 2 turns once - on the AQU Inner which is a winterized surface (some special type of dirt). Even though the inner track is a mile long and the main track is 1 1/8, the stretch on the Inner is actually 21 ft. longer due to where the turns are positioned.

Divine's other routes are one turn miles which are a different ballgame to the 2 turn, 1 1/8 he'll be asked to go today. The 96 day layoff may or may not help - his last 2 layoffs produced pretty poor efforts. His works look solid and his connections are top notch.

From an AOdds APV point of view (don't know how the Hat programmed the APV calc and don't care - they've proven to be very good to me), Curlin is a stickout at 321%, with Out Of Control at 203% and AP Arrow at 92% - no one else is close. Divine Park is 4th but at 35% of purse. AP Arrow looks off form right now.

I'll see if I can run it through EXDC later if I have time. Probably not a race I'll be betting.

Charlie D 08-30-2008 10:02 AM

A bit of research shows me the first 6f in DP's Line #2 have been run in 6f sprint time with those setting these fractions collapsing in the straight to finish a well beaten Last and 2nd last


Too much Early, helps OTE


Races like this are the ones to be wary of imo and with this info i'd use another Line

doing that would put Curlin on Top

Bill V. 08-30-2008 10:49 AM

gift
 
Good morning still early here

Thank you Charlie Rich Mike Lou
what a nice post ..
I hope you all have great days

If Its ok may I give my example of the race ?

Bill

Charlie D 08-30-2008 10:55 AM

Internal fractions

Winchester

22.45 - 22.2 -24.49 - 23.6

Met

22.48 -22.04 - 25.09 - 27.3

Massive difference and in Met fractions were set by probably best Early horse in US


Line #2 very iffy imo

mikesal57 08-30-2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 39128)
Good morning still early here

Thank you Charlie Rich Mike Lou
what a nice post ..
I hope you all have great days

If Its ok may I give my example of the race ?

Bill

Hi Bill...you can do whatever you want....but please stop that picture from looking at me!!

Bill V. 08-30-2008 11:07 AM

Sorry
 
Mike

I turned off the picture

I will come up with something nicer

Bill

mikesal57 08-30-2008 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill V. (Post 39132)
Mike

I turned off the picture

I will come up with something nicer

Bill

Bill dont take me seriously...I was just joking buddy...

maybe something with boobs will do

Bill V. 08-30-2008 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesal57 (Post 39133)
Bill dont take me seriously...I was just joking buddy...

maybe something with boobs will do

Well I getting in good shape. But not that good:eek: :eek:

LOL

Bill

mikesal57 08-30-2008 11:51 AM

;) ya never know

OK...do the race would like to hear your incites..

clore1030 08-30-2008 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichieP (Post 39118)
Morning Mike

Fwiw what I did do was change the settings to use 100% of the variant instead of the stock 50%. Why? I noticed right away that the 2 ml favs BOTH have lines with VERY high variants (+/- 20 or more). Knowing I'm using adjusted I want to bring those lines closer together with the 100% than what shows with the 50%.

Just curious - did you experiment a bit previously by trying say 65% or 80%, or did you just elect to eliminate the adjustment entirely?

Or, Ted, if you're around, I'd welcome any input that you can provide on the background of 50% being the recommended figure.


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